I beleive that all members at Gamebanshee should use proper language because when someone uses imporper words (friggan, for example) or shorthand (4 instead of for) it causes the posts to become illegible and an unpleasentry to most members.
You do not have to use sophisticated language, just make the words simple, use correct grammer and spelling, but if you do not know the spelling of a word, say so that other readers do not misinterpret the word used. This way, the posts are legible.
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Hey we can all dream of some things, but most wont come true, this sadly is one of those things, when you have a community as large as GB i dont think anyone taking the easy way out of spelling will even be bothered to read this post.
This has been an issue on more then one forum when people are spelling illiteratly because their lazy and i do agree its damn annoying to read someones post and see something thats more numbers then it is letters, or you get illegibile crap like this " how du i kill hm cuz it like need to trad 4 it cuz it good 2 ".
Personaly im glad that dosent happen on GB as much as it dose on other forums because its honestly one of my pet peeves when people have a english speeking country as their location yet they choose to spell things wrong because their lazy.
Clearly no one here is asking for university level language but i understand, its quite painful the read some of the posts people make, so i usualy dont bother to read them if they dont make sense or the poster didnt make at least a half decent effort to spell properly.
This has been an issue on more then one forum when people are spelling illiteratly because their lazy and i do agree its damn annoying to read someones post and see something thats more numbers then it is letters, or you get illegibile crap like this " how du i kill hm cuz it like need to trad 4 it cuz it good 2 ".
Personaly im glad that dosent happen on GB as much as it dose on other forums because its honestly one of my pet peeves when people have a english speeking country as their location yet they choose to spell things wrong because their lazy.
Clearly no one here is asking for university level language but i understand, its quite painful the read some of the posts people make, so i usualy dont bother to read them if they dont make sense or the poster didnt make at least a half decent effort to spell properly.
[QUOTE=Volk]<snip>, so i usualy dont bother to read them if they dont make sense or the poster didnt make at least a half decent effort to spell properly.[/QUOTE]
This is usually also the best approch.
I try to reply to most posts in a respectfull manner if I can answer the question - even if it is "poorly written" (to be somewhat neutral), but that is mostly due to my moderator status.
On other forums - I simply ignore people that write as such.
It is often also very easy to see if somebody has problems with the language compared to lazy/leet posters. Everybody should have respect for people with difficulties with english, because many posters first languages, or even second at times, aren't english.
But the substitution of 4 instead of for, or u instead of you and similar ... I hate it. How long does it take to type 2 or 3 extra characters - a few tens of a second.
The problem is growing around the Internet, but I think it is very much due to SMS that this "language" has developed. There you can only fit a certain number of characters into a message, so it pays to keep it short. However, when typing on the Internet, you have all the time in the world (sort of
), and time is not really an importent factor.
So while I agree that people should try and write proberly, I would still advice people to just ignore such posts instead of getting worked up about it.
(and sorry, but I can't move this to SYM, I have no "powers" in this sub-forum )
This is usually also the best approch.
I try to reply to most posts in a respectfull manner if I can answer the question - even if it is "poorly written" (to be somewhat neutral), but that is mostly due to my moderator status.
On other forums - I simply ignore people that write as such.
It is often also very easy to see if somebody has problems with the language compared to lazy/leet posters. Everybody should have respect for people with difficulties with english, because many posters first languages, or even second at times, aren't english.
But the substitution of 4 instead of for, or u instead of you and similar ... I hate it. How long does it take to type 2 or 3 extra characters - a few tens of a second.
The problem is growing around the Internet, but I think it is very much due to SMS that this "language" has developed. There you can only fit a certain number of characters into a message, so it pays to keep it short. However, when typing on the Internet, you have all the time in the world (sort of
), and time is not really an importent factor.So while I agree that people should try and write proberly, I would still advice people to just ignore such posts instead of getting worked up about it.
(and sorry, but I can't move this to SYM, I have no "powers" in this sub-forum
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Those who dont speak english as their mother language have a fairly easy time knowing what spelling mistakes are truely mistakes and which are just plain done out lazyness.
Adding or missing a letter, and generaly things that dont butcher the whole sentance are common, i do that all the time, basicaly its just a matter of simply paragraphing, punctuating and making sure what you type makes sense.
I bet that if everyone posting on forums did that most people would be more then happy, theres very few people who are spelling fanatics.
*EDIT* Not likely most people only have problems with those who use sentances made up of one or two characters like you demonstrated.
Adding or missing a letter, and generaly things that dont butcher the whole sentance are common, i do that all the time, basicaly its just a matter of simply paragraphing, punctuating and making sure what you type makes sense.
I bet that if everyone posting on forums did that most people would be more then happy, theres very few people who are spelling fanatics.
*EDIT* Not likely most people only have problems with those who use sentances made up of one or two characters like you demonstrated.
I don't think it's a big issue. Internet creates its own slang, that's what I think. And while it may be unpleasing to the eye, it is still a form of comprehensible language.
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Maybe it is because I have taught English as a second language, but I generally find it is easy to tell if somebody is being lazy or if they are not a native speaker.
I have a really hard time taking poorly expressed posts seriously when they are clearly written by somebody whose mother tongue is English. I really do not think there ever is a justification to mutilate a language. Excepting, as others have pointed out, when a medium like text messaging is involved.
Bad spelling is a particular peeve, and, unless an individual is dyslexic, there is no excuse for it. Even if somebody does not have a dictionary, there are various online versions, and failing that, you can paste what you have written into a Word document and run a spell check. (not that this method should be relied upon...)
The point of language is to communicate, so when I see a sentence filled with abominations like "4," "R," "U," "cuz," I automatically assume the individual responsible is not really making much effort to communicate and I don't feel compelled to take any interest or respond.
However, I have nothing but respect for people who post in a language that is not their mother tongue. Writing in a language where you don't intuitively know the rules of grammar, or you don't instinctively grasp nuance is incredibly daunting.
Er.. okay, I'll stop ranting now
I have a really hard time taking poorly expressed posts seriously when they are clearly written by somebody whose mother tongue is English. I really do not think there ever is a justification to mutilate a language. Excepting, as others have pointed out, when a medium like text messaging is involved.
Bad spelling is a particular peeve, and, unless an individual is dyslexic, there is no excuse for it. Even if somebody does not have a dictionary, there are various online versions, and failing that, you can paste what you have written into a Word document and run a spell check. (not that this method should be relied upon...)
The point of language is to communicate, so when I see a sentence filled with abominations like "4," "R," "U," "cuz," I automatically assume the individual responsible is not really making much effort to communicate and I don't feel compelled to take any interest or respond.
However, I have nothing but respect for people who post in a language that is not their mother tongue. Writing in a language where you don't intuitively know the rules of grammar, or you don't instinctively grasp nuance is incredibly daunting.
Er.. okay, I'll stop ranting now
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[QUOTE=Volk]people are spelling illiteratly because their lazy[/QUOTE]
Lol, sorry I just think it's funny that you misspelled illiterately and misused "their" when the proper spelling would be "they're" in a post complaining about other people misusing and misspelling words.
People make mistakes-sometimes because they are lazy, sometimes because they are used to a different language, and sometimes because they are unaware they are making mistakes. It really doesn't bother me that bad. I guess I've gotten used to it.
Lol, sorry I just think it's funny that you misspelled illiterately and misused "their" when the proper spelling would be "they're" in a post complaining about other people misusing and misspelling words.
People make mistakes-sometimes because they are lazy, sometimes because they are used to a different language, and sometimes because they are unaware they are making mistakes. It really doesn't bother me that bad. I guess I've gotten used to it.
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I think Texan should be considered a 'Mother Language'
I can't spell worth a flip !..and it is hard to look up a word when you can't spell it...it is also hard for people who are functionally illiterate yet trying the best they can..by using tools such as 'Word' or Works to check everything first, but if the spell check substitutes sale for sail..they will often miss something like this..also..if they happened to misspell a word which by happenstance turns out to be another words spelled properly, those are going to slip under the net.
It's a shame we all are not on the same educational level..but as long as someone is considerate and trying to be an active and contributing part of the community...not rude or hostile...and in general doing their obvious best..I have not problem trying to decipher what they are wanting to say ;-)
I wish Buck had Spell Check in SYM
I can't spell worth a flip !..and it is hard to look up a word when you can't spell it...it is also hard for people who are functionally illiterate yet trying the best they can..by using tools such as 'Word' or Works to check everything first, but if the spell check substitutes sale for sail..they will often miss something like this..also..if they happened to misspell a word which by happenstance turns out to be another words spelled properly, those are going to slip under the net.
It's a shame we all are not on the same educational level..but as long as someone is considerate and trying to be an active and contributing part of the community...not rude or hostile...and in general doing their obvious best..I have not problem trying to decipher what they are wanting to say ;-)
I wish Buck had Spell Check in SYM
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[QUOTE=rebel3_6_1]Lol, sorry I just think it's funny that you misspelled illiterately and misused "their" when the proper spelling would be "they're" in a post complaining about other people misusing and misspelling words. [/QUOTE]
See..that's what I am talking about
[/QUOTE]See..that's what I am talking about
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[QUOTE=Scayde]
I wish Buck had Spell Check in SYM [/QUOTE]
Indeed yes! That would be a great idea, I wonder how much it would slow things down?
You mean Texan is not an official Mother Tongue?
I wish Buck had Spell Check in SYM
[/QUOTE]Indeed yes!
That would be a great idea, I wonder how much it would slow things down? You mean Texan is not an official Mother Tongue?
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I speak English fluently and can speak Mexican.....um.....I mean Spanish....well enough to carry on a conversation, but as far as speaking 3 languages fluently, alas, that is something I cannot do. Like I said though, I've got no problem with people spelling things however they want to spell them. I just thought it was kinda funny.
Like I said though, I've got no problem with people spelling things however they want to spell them. I just thought it was kinda funny.Anywhere you can find a raving lunatic rambling on about his past and how he received the enlightenment from the toads who hail from the heavens, I'll be there.
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I don't really mind it when people misspell something. I mean, people make mistakes all the time. Sure, some people who make spelling errors make them simply because they're lazy, but that doesn't mean that everyone who misspells something is lazy. And not everyone's native tongue is English, so they really can't help it if they misspell something.
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