Morrowind humility lesson

Indianasmith · Post by **Indianasmith** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:25 pm

So you've killed Almalexia and vanquished Dagoth Ur. Solstheim is safe and sound, with the Bloodmoon prophecy fulfilled and the Hunter defeated and banished. You've got three manors, a stronghold, and a collection of enchanted weapons to make a Daedra Lord jealous. Think you're the baddest dude in Morrowind? Think again! Try going to the Temple in Mournhold and taking on ALL the Hands of Almalexia at once. My guy was level 32, quaffed 5 "Fortify Health" potions, put up a Ninth Barrier scroll, and attacked with an enchanted Daedric Dai-Katana set to Absorb Health for 50-70 points at a whack. He lasted a little over ten seconds and didn't take down ONE of them.

Gromph · Post by **Gromph** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:57 pm

Bah you know nothing, if you really want to prove yourself go to Vivec and try and kill Lord Vivec. i tried with a char that has over 500 life, then a bunch of potions, and 100% resist magicka and the elements and he killed me in one hit, thats the true test of skill

Ideal Maxima · Post by **Ideal Maxima** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:40 pm

[QUOTE=Gromph]Bah you know nothing, if you really want to prove yourself go to Vivec and try and kill Lord Vivec. i tried with a char that has over 500 life, then a bunch of potions, and 100% resist magicka and the elements and he killed me in one hit, thats the true test of skill[/QUOTE]

get the heck outta here my OLD character was like level 7 i think and i took down vivec easy

maybe it was because i had the BiPolar Blade

dairy · Post by **dairy** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:42 pm

I dont know if this is over kill, but I dont stop leveling until I hit about 80 or so. Against the Hands, I have to drink about 10 or so homemade health potions to finish them off. Vivec I beat down without using a single potion. If I want a challenge, I'll fight Vivec in a bare knuckle boxing match. It takes a while to do and requires a few health potions but its kinda funny to beat a god to death with your fists.

The only real challenge I've found is fighting the skaal honor guards as a werewolf. I get beat down into a bloody pulp and turned into someone's hat if there are more than 3 of them.

Ideal Maxima · Post by **Ideal Maxima** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:52 pm

[QUOTE=dairy]

The only real challenge I've found is fighting the skaal honor guards as a werewolf. I get beat down into a bloody pulp and turned into someone's hat if there are more than 3 of them.

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nah i played the bloodmoon main quest and rite after i caught the disease in the skaal hall place, once i caught the disease ther i slept 3 days rite on the spot, so when i came outside ther were like 5 skaal honor guards, the wise guy, some lady and 2 or 3 gys in wolf and bear helmets. they all kept attackin me in a group, so I had to take them all out one at a time. I hacked and slashed into the group once and atleest one of them fell every time. all i had to do was jus keep jumpin and slashin

dairy · Post by **dairy** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:03 pm

i couldnt get the upper hand in any of those fights. i dont think i ever finished the wolf side of bloodmoon cause i got beat down so badly trying to get the skaal away from the amulet.

Ideal Maxima · Post by **Ideal Maxima** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:19 pm

well i don no about u but for me the bloodmoon expansion pak was easier for me in werewolf than it was in normal human form, they're the same thing except in the oppisite forms, in the human veiw werewolves r attakin u in the cave in werewolf form your attakin the skaal

dairy · Post by **dairy** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:22 pm

i know, but as a lvl 80 breton with full custom enchanted gear, nothing can touch you. literally, you cant die. as a lvl 80 werewolf, you're naked! my lvl 82 breton has 210 strength, 200 endurance, 126 intelligence, 120 speed etc...the werewolf bonuses dont do anything for me. the only thing the werewolf has on me is the shield scrapping ability. 2 hits to destroy a daedric tower shield. basically i can cost them a fortune in repairs and make a nice rug in the process.

JesterKing · Post by **JesterKing** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:09 pm

humbug. The game had lost all of its thrills until today, and i am just downloading my very first mod. shut up fable.

now there will be challenge. skall as a werewolf? LOL! the hands?!?!/ LOL! and vivic was like... sad. i take that back, hands were hard. I had to take 20 or so of my own home-brewed potions to kill them.

Gromph · Post by **Gromph** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:34 pm

check what difficulty you are playing on, i ahve mine set to max because i found the norm setting was to easy, which is prob why vivec owns me

Rane · Post by **Rane** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:42 pm

[QUOTE=dairy]i know, but as a lvl 80 breton with full custom enchanted gear, nothing can touch you. literally, you cant die. as a lvl 80 werewolf, you're naked! my lvl 82 breton has 210 strength, 200 endurance, 126 intelligence, 120 speed etc...[/QUOTE]

I'd really like to know how the in the name of all that is Holy you have managed to reach the extreme level of 82. The stats I can understand. I just can't figure out how on earth you bypassed the level limit.

Ok jokes aside, it is nice to hear stories about how far people have made it in the game and how "üver" their characters are. I find it quite amusing and intriguing how everyone has got such a huge need to boast with their achievements (I should know, believe me

). But what I don't like is how people talk about characters that are impossible to make without using cheats and editors, and how "great" they are and how they can cut the world in half with one bladeswing.

Just to back up what I just said and to prove that 82 is an impossible level to reach without cheating or using some exploit;

5 Major skills , all starting at 30 , maximun points gained: 100-30 = 70 , all major skills together: 5*70 = 350
5 Minor skills , all starting at 15 , maximum points gained: 100- 15 = 85 , minor skills together: 5*85 = 425

Total amount of attainable skills points: 350 + 425 = 775
Highest reachable level: 775 / 10 + 1 = 78.5 ~78

This post is not meant to be a declaration of war on all cheat users. I constantly use them myself. Sometimes for fun, sometimes I have to. I'm just saying that I don't feel it's right to boast about things you have created using cheats.

dairy · Post by **dairy** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:53 pm

I'm not sure how you cheat on xbox. there are a few exploits and i've heard of a "god mode" for health, mana or fatigue although im not sure how it works. something to do with the white and black buttons. so...

you'd really like to know how i passed the max level? well here it is!

there is a lvling glitch for xbox

high light below to learn how

step one - increase an attribute over 100...101 or 250 - it doesnt matter
step two - find a master trainer for one of your major or minor skills that is governed by that attribute ie endurance and heavy armor
step three - train your skill to 100
step four - continue to train your skill. although the skill will not increase past 100, the message "heavy armor increased to 100" or whatever it is will appear.
step five - repeat 9 more times
step six - level up!

note: an easy way to increase your attributes with a permanent bonus to strength and endurance is to allow the corpus disease to stay with you for a while. i dont cure it till i've had it for 100 days. when you do go to get your cure, the bonues to strength and endurance will remain and the penalties to your other stats will be removed.

and thats how you do it. this works for ES3 for xbox and ES3:GOTY edition for xbox. i've never tried it on pc.

Opalescence · Post by **Opalescence** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:59 pm

It works for PC, I've tried it, it's a seriously cheapo way for even the weakest mage or the most sinewy assassin to grow mega-muscles overnight. I try not to exploit this too much, but I just can't help it -- 250 strength is just too useful to pass up, and I just do NOT want to use the tilde key.

dairy · Post by **dairy** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:06 pm

you mean over 100 nights

Rane · Post by **Rane** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:07 pm

As I said, you can't get above the limit without using cheats or exploits. I was well aware of this way but I still see it as cheating, since it's not how it should be. But others may disagree with me about this. It's totally up to each and every player to choose whether or not to use the glitches. Same goes for the corprus exploit. I don't disapprove of it, I just don't think the usage of it is something one should be proud of. Still, I have to admit that I've taken advantage of most of the exploits I know of too.

dairy · Post by **dairy** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:13 pm

after finishing the game without even knowing of these exploits it was fun to build an uber character. its kinda cool that my weapon breaks before i need to heal when fighting dagoth ur. literally, my character is stronger than steel : ) im all for using cheats once youve beaten a game. for example: i dont know if you remember the end of doom, but once i beat it, i tossed on god mode and took a chainsaw to the nasty spider. really let you see what you were fighting. without cheating, you'd never be able to get close enough to get a good look at it