Baldur's Gate 4???

rebel3_6_1 · Post by **rebel3_6_1** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:14 am

This thought just came to me. Baldur's Gate 1 was tremendously successful and Baldur's Gate 2 surpassed Baldur's Gate 1. If they do release a Baldur's Gate 3 and if it is as successful as the first two, it's likely someone would make a Baldur's Gate 4, and possibly a Baldur's Gate 5 after that. Is it possible that Baldur's Gate could become a huge franchise like Ultima, Final Fantasy, or Breath of Fire? Anyways, that's just a thought.

This also makes me realize that almost all of the Final Fantasy games were unrelated to each other, and most of them were good. Baldur's Gate 3 wouldn't necessarily have to be tied in to BG 1&2 to be good if they have creative writers and innovative designers working on it.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:43 am

Interesting thought actually - but I'd wait untill we know more about BG3 before I will draw conclusions about the "path" of BG-name

me0w · Post by **me0w** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:20 am

One thing to dampen your thoughts though. Ultima, Final Fantasy, Breath of Fire, etc. They all had names that to be honest had nothing to do with there story. They all were totaly different from #1 - #2 - #3, etc. Also, the company's behind those games had not released similar games on different time periods, story's etc, like Interplay. Interplay have already released PS:Torment, Fallout, Baldurs Gate, Icewind Dale. Because of these reasons, I really doubt they have Seriously stray from the story. Otherwise, 1 there just using the name as a franchise, which is a *****, 2 they would piss off alot of people.

rebel3_6_1 · Post by **rebel3_6_1** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:43 am

I'm not saying that it's etched in stone that BG will become a huge franchise. As I understand we are still not 100% certain that BG 3 is even going to happen, although it does seem inevitible-if not now, sometime in the future. But if BG 3 is done well, I have no doubt that it will sell millions of copies, and if Baldur's Gate 3 sells millions of copies, someone will want to make a Baldur's Gate 4. As far as straying from the story, it's pretty obvious that the Bhaalspawn saga is over. I don't see Baldur's Gate 3 being anything more than loosely related to the first two, possibly similar to the way Breath of Fire 2 is related to the first Breath of Fire. A couple of references to the earlier characters, and the towns remaining more or less the same. The games would obviously have to take place in Faerun, but as far as the games having names that don't relate to the story, the name Baldur's Gate hardly refers to the bhaalspawn story. You could name Baldur's Gate 2 "Athkatla" and it would be more relevant than "Baldur's Gate 2" considering that you never travel north of Amn.

Tower_Master · Post by **Tower_Master** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:51 pm

Never-Ending Baldur's Gate? (some minor spoilers)

The one problem I deduce is that of storyline.

SPOILERS (feel free to stop reading).

At the end of BGII: Throne of Bhaal, the remainder of the NPC's lives were summed up. Admittedly, there are several that could be brought back, or the game could continue without them (as another "thread" discusses), but there is also the singular problem of the "PC". What if you chose to ascend to deityhood at the end of ToB? Would you just pretend that never happened? And are we to believe that the "PC" would continue infinitely onward, never dying, without drawing the attention of SOMEONE (or SOMETHING) more powerful, thus obliterating him/her? And would the purpoted games be the same if, like Final Fantasy, they completely branched away from the Bhaalspawn? I have no answers...only these questions.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:49 pm

It is not unthinkable that the Baldurs Gate name would become a franchise-name if Baldurs Gate 3 became a success. Then it wouldn't be unlikely that a BG4 would be made.

And of course, they can't continue the Bhaalspawn storyline, and they can't continue the same playercharacter - that is quite obvious.
The rumor is even that BG3 will not continue the Bhaalspawn, but take place before BG1's storyline.

Adahn · Post by **Adahn** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:23 am

What about the fact that Black Isle don't exist no more? huh? Do you guys really think the game is going to be as good? Or is it just going to become some crap fest like Temple of Elemental Evil? Or Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance? I think i'll just wait until it come out, and you guys try it out. I'm not going to risk buying a game, that's probably going to mess up the last two.

Daveron · Post by **Daveron** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:04 am

I think there is a very high chance of there being a bg4 or even a bg5. The only problem with this pheory is the story... hmmm

rebel3_6_1 · Post by **rebel3_6_1** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:23 pm

[QUOTE=Adahn]What about the fact that Black Isle don't exist no more? huh? Do you guys really think the game is going to be as good? Or is it just going to become some crap fest like Temple of Elemental Evil? Or Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance? I think i'll just wait until it come out, and you guys try it out. I'm not going to risk buying a game, that's probably going to mess up the last two.[/QUOTE]

As far as Black Isle not existing anymore, it doesn't necessarily have to be the same company, or even the same people for that matter, who make BG games. Breath of Fire 1, as I recall, was released by squaresoft whereas the subsequent BOF's have been released by Capcom. I'm not sure the exact reasons for this, but a game can make a successful series despite not being released by the same company. I would like the BG team to work on BG3, but it isn't a necessity as long as they get good people. C'mon guys, the BG team was great, but there are other creative people in the world.

I plan on buying the game when it comes out, regardless of whether it's a "crapfest" or not simply because I loved the first 2 so much. Yep, I'm one of those people who will buy a game because I love the prequel. Sometimes it does lead to me being rather dissappointed, but other times I'm glad I'm that way.

Adahn · Post by **Adahn** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:35 pm

[QUOTE=rebel3_6_1] other times I'm glad I'm that way.[/QUOTE]

Well good for you I say. - You sure you're not on drugs?

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:11 am

I have always thought of NWN as a kind of BG3 and I would not be surprised if the story around BG3 relates to both BG1&2 and NWN events in someway. I'm pretty sure that there atleast will be references made. As for going on to Bg4 and so on it really depends on how well this game makes it. If it brings in enough money then it will surely be continued until such a time when it doesn't bring in money any more....

Bad Karma · Post by **Bad Karma** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:53 pm

Okay, so lemme get this straight. BGIII looms on the horizon, none of us know ANYTHING about it (let's not kid ourselves here, because we don't), and you're looking forward to a fourth and fifth game in the series? Don't get so far ahead of yourself.

afterblue · Post by **afterblue** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:38 pm

Baldur's gate tying it all in

Baldur's gate can go as long as it wants to. Here are just a few of the spin offs.

1. What about the time before your current NPC was born. Maybe you could enlist the likes of Thundersmith, Elminister and Gorion himself to aid yourself in the quest.

2. It could be several generations after your NPC, maybe the descendant of your current character who thinks he is a mortal child of normal parents who is thrust into adventure. You could meet characters who descended from your old henchmen. What about a young female ranger who roams around with a hamster and is ready for righteous butt kicking?

3. You might have become a God or a mortal, but the world is still not at peace because of the current Lord of Murder, the lord of trickery. Maybe he wants to start having mortal offspring to ensure he can be resurrected. If you are a God, you could have some amazing NPCs working with you, Solars, Planetars, Fiends, Demons. If you are mortal, maybe your first quest is to go looking for all your old hench men, and that itself would be interesting. Maybe some are dead, maybe some do not wish to return to the world of adventuring, it would be so much fun to persuade them (for old time's sake). If you have married the NPC you romanced, maybe their death triggers off your need to go on the quest.

WARLORD HECTOR · Post by **WARLORD HECTOR** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:57 am

Why not!!!

BG has it's own fans, and there can be very different storylines. It could be that Black Isle leaves the project like Van Buren. But that means not there will be not a BG3.

I like'd the first two, and will also buy the 3. one (if it happens). I enjoyed them much much more as NWN. Hopefullyit would not take long for the new game (like Fallout3)...

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:20 am

I am not sure what you mean, but Black Isle is no more - and haven't been for a while, so they have not been connected to Baldurs Gate for a long time. And furthermore Van Burren has been killed by Interplay some time ago.

WARLORD HECTOR · Post by **WARLORD HECTOR** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:44 am

FALLOUT 3 will be completed by Bethseda as you know. the same could happen with BG3. It's silly don't let the Game continue, so why should no one take the profit from BG3. BG is one of the best RPG's ever. So it cluod continue, thats why I'm asking "WHY NOT"...

WARLORD HECTOR · Post by **WARLORD HECTOR** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:57 am

As Story there could be many different paths:

one possible to get rid out the cowleds from Anakhtia.
another claasic option is that Amn goes in to war.

The story line can aslo continue With Gorion (as our friends said) or with some NPC's why not.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:58 am

Fallout 3 will be made by Bethesda - yes - I know. But *that* Fallout 3 isn't equvivalent to Van Burren.

But anyways - there are many rumors that BG3 will be made. We just don't know anything about developer yet.

Edit: and please edit your posts instead of posting twice in a row, especially with so short timelapse.

Paranitis · Post by **Paranitis** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:10 pm

Okay..we are starting to stray into Fallout3 territory..stop it! lol

Anyway, it REALLY wouldn't be too hard to get a good storyline and all that stuff together for more Baldur's gate games considering there is a whole line of product out there based on the Forgotten Realms setting. Not saying we have to take a campaign directly from a published pencil/paper adventure..I am just saying that there is so much information out there already about pretty much everything on Toril that it shouldn't be hard to have this faction want to get rid of this other faction..or this npc shows up to continue on his quest for dominance from this other land, and all kinds of stuff like that.

It's kinda the same as everything about Starwars..there are tons of books, games, movies, and all that stuff..and they all stick with the same storyline so there is nothing like "but that guy can't be there, because this other book said he died 50 years before this other book took place!" type crap in it.

As long as the information they use doesn't conflict with information that has been released through the official WotC handbooks on FR or authorized FR novels, then all is well.

Adahn · Post by **Adahn** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:52 am

Who's Van Burren anywho?