HoU: Best RDD Build?

Paranitis · Post by **Paranitis** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:50 am

First question is this..IF I import a character from NWN or SoU into HoU..do the NPCs that came into contact with those characters recognize them? More specifically..if I import my fighter from SoU into HoU..will Deekin still recognize me?

Well anyway, I wish I could make a really good Fighter/RDD build (obviously need Sorc/Bard atleast 1 level)..so if my characters aren't recognized then I may want to just rebuild my fighter back a couple levels (before dodge/mobility/disarm, since they SUCK to me, and maybe even clear out the specialist weapon feats such as weapon focus and all that stuff. Because I tend to find better weapons laying around than the one I currently use.) and then get her into RDD instead..then I can get Deekin and be a couple of RDD's walkin around!

Anyway..anyone got a really good Fighter/RDD build?

BlackHand · Post by **BlackHand** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:13 am

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If you import your character from SOU, Deekin will recognize you and even has written a book about your adventures in Udrentide, which has gained you quite a reputation. I don't know if the same happens if you import from NWN OC or start from scratch.

Concerning the RDD-build: I would start out as Bard(1)/Fighter(1) to get the weapon and armor proficenies. Add in Cleave, and the go straight RDD(10) for the improved stats and special abilities.

Paranitis · Post by **Paranitis** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:15 am

Damn..okay, then guess I won't be getting any wings for quite awhile since I am gonna go ahead and keep it so Deekin recognizes me

I have no clue what level my fighter is now..but when I decide to go with RDD..shouldn't I get Sorc instead of Bard for one level so I can get a familiar?

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Okay..I just went to select a premade (SoU character) and remembered that I have a choice of my end-game character, or my beginning-game character (meaning it's the same character, but one is when I first made it, and other is right at the tail end of the game when I last used it)..do I need to use my end-game character for Deekin to recognize me, or could I use my beginning-game character and have him recognize me since it is technically the same character?

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:24 am

The story line of HotU is following the SoU one. So regardless of how you import, the HotU NPCs will only know your character as the one from SoU.

Deekin should recognize you even if you haven't played through SoU (imported the character from SoU)

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:36 am

Well, I started HoU with a completely new character (I genrated her just then) and Deekin recognized her (and mentioned the story he'd written as well)

Paranitis · Post by **Paranitis** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:38 am

Phew..then I can go ahead and make a new character

All happy now

BlackHand · Post by **BlackHand** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:13 am

[QUOTE=Paranitis]I have no clue what level my fighter is now..but when I decide to go with RDD..shouldn't I get Sorc instead of Bard for one level so I can get a familiar?

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A lvl 1 familiar won't be of much use later on, but then again your bard skills won't be either, probably.

Knowing that you want to start from scratch, I would advise a different strategy (whis does not work for an evil character though). Do not take a fighter level early on, but multiclass to Champion of Torm later on, when you meet the prerequisites. The CoT is superior to the simple fighter, since he has way better saving throws and some special skills, which won't be too shabby if you up your Charisma a bit.

Paranitis · Post by **Paranitis** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:25 am

Well, I already had an idea of what I wanted..and that was specifically a fighter/rdd.

So right now I got a Fighter4/Bard1(more skills than sorc)/RDD10.

Now to keep working on Fighter until I hit 21 where I am probably gonna go back to RDD.

My main thing was about Deekin recognising me, and he did after I reconstructed the character

The feats I picked from 1-20 were Ambidexterity, Weapon Proficiency (Exotic), Two Weapon Fighting, Power Attack, Toughness, Cleave, Knockdown, Improved Knockdown, Improved Two Weapon Fighting, and Great Cleave.

Reason I picked those feats is so that I can pretty much use every melee weapon with the same amount of skill..I just wish I didn't have to choose bard or sorc to be an RDD though..because from having Fighter5/RDD10 I would probably start loading up on Rogue levels for the skill points and other neat things it gives me..but I guess I am okay with just going the rest in fighter

Noober · Post by **Noober** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:08 am

The best RDD builds are all spellswords, all of which are better fighters then most RDD/Fighter/?? builds, but it might make the HotU campaign a little too easy. If you wnat evidence that a Fighter/Bard is useless, look at sharwyn.

You really shouldn't bothered with Toughness, or Knockdowns unless they're pre-req's.

And also, no Rogue for you since there is a maximum of three classes per character.

Sir_Toejam · Post by **Sir_Toejam** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:23 am

ack! too much knockdown. you were so close to dev crit! ditch the knockdown until after you get dev crit. you had a lot of the preqs:

power attack
cleave
great cleave
improved crit
(it says you need wep focus, but I didn't when i did mine)
then all you need is overwhelming crit and then

dev crit!

i can't say enough how uber this ability is, escpecially for a fighter type.

Paranitis · Post by **Paranitis** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:04 am

It's okay, I actually decided against the whole "using every weapon" thing and went just with greatsword like I did in SoU..so I was able to get all the good feats and stuff, and I got the 2 epic crit feats at level 21.

Right now my character is something like..Fighter11/Bard1/RDD12..or something around there.

And I am using Enserric the Greatsword..+10 enchantment, haste, keen, has an extra enchantment through something I forget so that I drain strength almost everytime I hit anything..it's pretty neat. Now I am about a half hour into the 3rd chapter of HotU.

Qazaan · Post by **Qazaan** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:04 am

So what is the conclusion?

Paranitis · Post by **Paranitis** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:23 am

Well, some people say best RDD build deals with being a fighter/bard/rdd (me)..some people think bard/rdd (like deekin)..some people say sorc/rdd. So I guess it completely depends on what kind of character you plan on playing

Noober · Post by **Noober** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:33 pm

The TRUTH (and proper conclusion after alot of testing):

You want the best melee build: go Bard/RDD/??
You want the best spellsword: go Sorc/RDD/pally
You want the best caster: Don't take RDD!

Itch · Post by **Itch** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:43 pm

Bard/RDD/WM i find are a lot better in combat than Bard/RDD/Fighter... if your not that feat orientated.

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:45 am

I personaly found bard/rdd/wm worthless.

why do i need bigger multiplayer on crits,if i have devastating? better get better DC.

big range of crits not means 100% crits. if my oponent have good AC,my big crit range will not much here. of couse better to have it,but not by such cost! to get WM ,this char must get next not nessesary feats for him: Dodge,Mobility,spring atack,whirlwind. expertize i found usefull sometimes. and think about AB lost and only 3 atacks per round. usual fighter/rdd gets 4 atacks and much better AB.

Itch · Post by **Itch** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:59 am

Well the logic behind it, so i have been told is curse song makes devastating critical extremely powerfull (lowers saving throws) If you use a simple weapon you can still have 4 attacks per round... the only deficit really is the lack of feats.... I have also been toying with a Sorc 23, WM7 RDD 10 char... only problem is the char is really quite impotent till later lvls as I wanted to build him in such a way as to have 3 attacks and 4 epic spells, oh and you don't have enough feats to get dev critical...

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:41 am

yep. Curse song very powerful. i am playing now bard/rdd/chot on some server. when i'll do bard20,my songs will last 100 rounds and will do -8 all saves to enemy. my devastating DC will be 50 or 51 - didn`t desided yet. but song buff is realy beyond compares with spells. it can`t be dispeled!

Morth · Post by **Morth** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:31 pm

i actually found the bard/rdd/wm really worthwhile gotta say 5bard then 10rdd then bard till 8 go wm save last lvl for bard to boost tumble and ur umd

my favorite rdd build has gotta be the sorc fighter rdd

go sorc 1 fighter1
then sorc 4 then take rdd to 10
pump up sorc to 26 takein all 3 auto still spells along with 2 epic spells
then take the last 2 fighter lvls

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:47 pm

2Morth:
Hmmm. for sorc/rdd fighter aren't best choice. if you took it for feats,better take ChoT instead,but if you realy want to get all you can from sorc/rdd,then take Pally for good or Blackgard for evil. then all your CHA bonus become your saves.