On Popular demand; PT

Antimatter · Post by **Antimatter** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:46 am

Originally posted by Yshania
@Antimatter, red is not so easy on the eye

Sorry, what color would you prefer? I just kinda chose the first one I saw

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 10:59 am

Antimatter: Yeah, the red is a bit tough on my old eyes. You could try a nice yellow, pink, skyblue, burlywood, or orange.

Also, I would like to read the whole text you posted, but since I spam from work, I really shouldn't spend the time. Maybe you could summarize the main point?

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:15 pm

Originally posted by Yshania
It is a bit late in the day for me to try and catch up on the full discussion, but what I will say is don't be fooled by Blair. He is not as innocent as you might think, he (IMO) is manipulative and certainly bright enough to be fully aware of the full implications of his actions, he also has a wealth of advisors at his disposal, he will not be lead blindly.

Far be it from me to sound anarchistic (that’s Chanak’s job

), but I tend to adopt one of Groucho Marx’s theories: Where he said “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member,” I distrust any politician who actually wants to be a politician. Given that, Mr. Blair is undoubtedly responsible for his actions, and is as suspect as any other politician.

But I think the Bush Administration betrayed Blair on several occasions. I understand that Blair expected the US to push for a UN resolution before the war, which would have helped Blair’s position considerably no matter which way the vote went, but then suddenly, Bush comes out spouting rhetoric that forced France to declare that they would use their veto power. The resolution died before even being voted on. I don’t think this is the only time that Blair held certain expectations of his allies, only to find that they were operating from their own agenda.

Kameleon · Post by **Kameleon** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:41 pm

Re: Re: Re: On Popular demand; PT

Originally posted by Kayless
Ditto.

Later.

Bah, humbug

Antimatter · Post by **Antimatter** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 12:06 am

Main point: America is doing fairly well in it's War on Terror, however it can probably never be won. It goes through why this is and how they are acheiving it, plus a section on al Qaeda specifically that says they've fallen apart structurally but are very much intact when it comes to creating trouble. And there's more, but I read it about three days ago so I can't remember all the specific details. (yeah my memory sucks, leave me be

)

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 3:59 pm

I LOL at this from The Onion:

U.S. Refuses To Allow U.N. Weapons Inspectors Back Into Iraq
BAGHDAD, IRAQ—For the third time in as many weeks, U.S. officials denied U.N. weapons inspectors' request to reenter Iraq. "Thanks so much for the offer, but we can handle it from here," Lt. Gen. William Wallace told U.N. chief inspector Hans Blix. "We're getting very close to finding Saddam's massive WMD stockpile, and to have the U.N. get involved at this point would just complicate matters. Sorry." U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan has given President Bush a June 28 deadline to let inspectors into Iraq.

As well as this:

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:01 pm

Let's see - we have soldiers coming home in body bags every day- but we're not officially at war. Yup, still smells like Vietnam.

Chanak · Post by **Chanak** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:11 pm

Originally posted by Gwalchmai
Oh, I forgot to add: I also originally thought this thread was about Planescape:Torment.

Same here.

PseudoSmile731 · Post by **PseudoSmile731** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:15 pm

politics are NOT boring, you just dont have the brain capacity to be aware of your surroundings. you are so ignorant to whats going on in the world...AMERICANS!

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:37 pm

PseudoSmile:
Watch that language! Don't throw insults around like that.

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Vicsun · Post by **Vicsun** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:49 am

[QUOTE=PseudoSmile731]politics are NOT boring, you just dont have the brain capacity to be aware of your surroundings. you are so ignorant to whats going on in the world...AMERICANS!

[/QUOTE]

You just bumped a thread that's one year old to... troll? And troll poorly at that?

Fun Fact!
Most of the people who posted in this thread weren't Americans.

And for the record, when I first saw the thread I thought it would be about PS:T as well

CM · Post by CM » Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:56 am

Was i the only one who didnt think it was about PT?

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:14 am

[QUOTE=Vicsun]Fun Fact!
Most of the people who posted in this thread weren't Americans.[/QUOTE]

Particularly the one who said it was boring. And who, incidentally, is banned and will never read this. Perhaps fortunately.

@CM evidently, yes.

So what do all you political thinkers think of the fact that Kofi Annan said in a BBC interview today that the war on Iraq was illegal?

Or that Bush's cronies are accusing him of trying to affect the outcome of the US elections?

Just curious.

Vicsun · Post by **Vicsun** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:36 am

[QUOTE=Georgi]Particularly the one who said it was boring. And who, incidentally, is banned and will never read this. Perhaps fortunately.

@CM evidently, yes.

So what do all you political thinkers think of the fact that Kofi Annan said in a BBC interview today that the war on Iraq was illegal?

Or that Bush's cronies are accusing him of trying to affect the outcome of the US elections?

Just curious.[/QUOTE]

Instead of answering, I will ask another question. What are the chances of Bush being held liable and accountable for the war under international law, and thus being considered a war criminal? This, of course, sounds too good to actually happen, but why, in theory, shouldn't it? Isn't the role of the ICJ precisely to prosecute such actions, as opposed to, say, only prosecuting individuals who are not backed by a world power?

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:44 am

[QUOTE=Vicsun]Instead of answering, I will ask another question. What are the chances of Bush being held liable and accountable for the war under international law, and thus being considered a war criminal? This, of course, sounds too good to actually happen, but why, in theory, shouldn't it? Isn't the role of the ICJ precisely to prosecute such actions, as opposed to, say, only prosecuting individuals who are not backed by a world power?[/QUOTE]

In theory, it should. In practice, it won't.

Now answer my question, dammit!!