[QUOTE=d3r3k]i was able to persuade ajunta pall with only eight or nine points in persuade, succeded on the first try, no less.
bastila was a problem, though.[/QUOTE]
its a roll...if you have low skill, you have to get a good roll.
how to abuse force valor to get a better result:
simple. remember the 20 seconds is real time, so just press the a button to speed thru dialog until you get the option to try persuade.
i am currently going thru taris for the 9th time...(

) with a measley 2 points granted by charisma of 14.
going on the theory that you don't really need it in taris, even if a couple of times i threatened the guy and got dark points. but so far all main path and optional quests went thru fine without needing more than 2 points...
i have 8 points in the bank...
ok, this is an evil idea...force valor, then level up screen...hmmm..i wonder if i could get the extra point of skill point with 14 intelligence.. need a intelligence implant...
way i figure, i need 15 or so to upgrade hk 37, which means me, a soldier counselor can keep 9 or so for persuade...only 15 since i have experimented successfully upgrading hk with force focus...

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