New Game - F/M/T

Phantom Lord · Post by **Phantom Lord** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:42 am

New Game - F/M/C

[This one's about F/M/C - not F/M/T as the title suggests ...]

OK, I've just installed BG1 & TotSC, BG2 & ToB, Tutu and a truckload of patches and mods as recommended in the modifications sticky. The game runs fine from the start, now that's great.

And here goes my new character, which I'm planning to play through BG1 and 2:

Voland, LN Half Elf F/M/C

Stats:
STR 9
DEX 18
CON 17
INT 18
WIS 18
CHA 10

Weapons:
Quarterstaff ++
Sling ++

OK, it is questionable to give the character such a low strenght, some might say - while others might argue that this character is hopelessly overpowered.

Both is probably true, especially the latter, with the Tutu fixes that allow grand mastery and maximum weapon style allocation for mc characters (which translates to grand mastery in quarterstaff and maxed out two-handed-weapon style in the long run). Not to speak of XP cap removal.

But to be honest, I'm out for sheer small party powerplay this time. Which means picking up a fighter (probably Minsc) and of course Coran asap and play the game with them as the only NPCs in the party. I really wonder how this game will turn out ... utter boredom or great fun?

Coot · Post by **Coot** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:28 pm

Well, with Coran you have two (multiclass) thieves. You could decide to create just a F/M. Or a F/M/C.

Phantom Lord · Post by **Phantom Lord** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:02 pm

[QUOTE=Coot]Well, with Coran you have two (multiclass) thieves. You could decide to create just a F/M. Or a F/M/C.[/QUOTE]LOL, great typo I made there. It's a F/M/C of course.

Yeltsu · Post by **Yeltsu** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:09 pm

[QUOTE=Phantom Lord]LOL, great typo I made there. It's a F/M/C of course.

[/QUOTE]

Yes, I wondered what you needed that high wisdom for, and why you wouldn't use swords

The Great Hairy · Post by **The Great Hairy** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:32 pm

Looks reasonable to me, although yeah the stats are quite high! And I don't like the STR at all, especially if you are going into melee.

Should be quite a powerful PC by the end of the game, and if you take him into SoA and ToB, will pretty much own the game.

Apart from thiefy stuff though...

Have fun,
TGHO

Coot · Post by **Coot** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:47 pm

You wouldn't even need a pure fighter like Minsc. Coran and your pc should be able to handle any fighting quite well; even if your pc is not very strong, with your magical and clerical abilities you should be able to buff him up quite nicely. And you'd lvl up more quick. I know your party would still be small even with a fighter, but both Coran and your pc are multiclassed and that sucks up xp.

The Great Hairy · Post by **The Great Hairy** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:02 pm

[QUOTE=Coot]I know your party would still be small even with a fighter, but both Coran and your pc are multiclassed and that sucks up xp.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but that is balanced out by only having the three PCs in the group. You'd end up with a ton of XP to share between the three of them.

Cheers,
TGHO

Phantom Lord · Post by **Phantom Lord** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:40 pm

[QUOTE=Coot]You wouldn't even need a pure fighter like Minsc. Coran and your pc should be able to handle any fighting quite well; even if your pc is not very strong, with your magical and clerical abilities you should be able to buff him up quite nicely. And you'd lvl up more quick. I know your party would still be small even with a fighter, but both Coran and your pc are multiclassed and that sucks up xp.[/QUOTE]My current dilemma: Coran is quite a bit away yet, my character can't hurt anyone in the near future and someone in the party should wear an armor that's stronger than studded leather. Otherwise not even the kids in town will recognize us as an adventuring party.

My small party experience was BG2 was quite stunning, small parties are far more dangerous than big ones there (HLA start around underdark, from that point on the game gets almost boring). Never took a small party through BG1 though. The magical capabilities that come with combined priest and wizard spells should be extreme. Another thing that should really rock is Tenser's Transformation.

As for the stats, they're awfully high indeed. But the spell casting attributes eat all the points. Setting CHA lower than STR would have been bad taste imho and CON and DEX need to be quite high without one or two tanks in the party. So here I go with few muscles and an average face. Anway, one day there will be Gauntlets of Ogre power and to that point, spells will have to do, I certainly don't want to look like an Ogre until then.

I think the character will start to be powerful around level 3/3/3, because 2nd level spells should really be a breakthrough. I'll probably start to collect some XP alone in the wilderness, then pick up Imoen and a fighter (could be Ajantis instead of Minsc as well) and travel with them until I have Coran, from which point I'll see if two party members work or if I need an additional tank.

Having played BG2 a lot in the past it was funny to be almost killed by a wolf btw.

Coot · Post by **Coot** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:24 pm

Well, my point sort of was that a party of three may be small, but in your case it's big. Coran and a f/m/c, that means xp gets divided over five classes. You won't lvl all that quickly.

Phantom Lord · Post by **Phantom Lord** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:09 pm

Currently I'm soloing the character in order to level him up a bit. There's roughly 1 million XP available (161.000*6 party members is my guess), which should be enough to overkill almost anything in the game (that's a powerplay point of view, but that's my idea this time). Mage level 3 gives Web spell, wich is my next goal.

The small party / high level effect is terrible in BG2, I wonder how it turns out in BG1 though.

Coot · Post by **Coot** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:21 am

Xp in BG1 is not too great. Look at the xp you get for killing a Hobgoblin, Tasloi or Gibberling (not to mention a Kobold... 7, count 'em, 7 xp!

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There are, however, ways to lvl more quickly. For example, killing basilisks in the south east region is quite easy with the help of your friendly neighbourhood ghoul Korax.

The Great Hairy · Post by **The Great Hairy** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:05 pm

"Korax is hungry..."

I think the best source for XP are the quests, or main monsters. Even with a party of three, you are not going to end up mega-high levels, but you'll do better than with a full party, especially one of several multi-classed NPCs.

Cheers,
TGHO