Bah! Typical woman response. Why don't you get back in the kitchen and bake a pie or something?
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[QUOTE=C Elegans]Also, I don't know how old you are, but the answer to "why women are so confusing" is "because humans are confusing to other humans and sometimes to themselves, and if you don't realise women and men are the basically the same and believe women are something different than yourself, you will never understand human nature, male or female". I'm sorry if I sound rude, I don't mean to offend you in anyway, but the topic females in gaming, females on this board, differences between males and females and worst of all: the gender stereotype that men and women are different from each other in some significant respect save anatomy, has been extensively discussed many times, and if you were not joking, I refer to the most recent discussion: [/QUOTE]
Bah! Typical woman response. Why don't you get back in the kitchen and bake a pie or something?
Bah! Typical woman response. Why don't you get back in the kitchen and bake a pie or something?
Nature’s first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
[QUOTE=dark_raven]truthfully, at my age of 17 i have a great understanding of women (a God given gift, i'm assuming). but when i asked the question, i was speaking for all of the males here who have wondered the same question and just didn't want to look stupid in front of anyone. i know there are many of them out there who won't admit it. [/QUOTE]
Who won't admit it??? I see post about it every week here at SYM I wish they quit "admitting"
[/QUOTE]Who won't admit it??? I see post about it every week here at SYM
I wish they quit "admitting" "There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance." - Hippocrates
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[QUOTE=Kayless]Bah! Typical woman response. Why don't you get back in the kitchen and bake a pie or something? [/QUOTE]
LOL! If she mountain-climbs up to Alaska and kicks your DCI tush all the way down to Seattle, it will only be what you deserve.
[/QUOTE]LOL! If she mountain-climbs up to Alaska and kicks your DCI tush all the way down to Seattle, it will only be what you deserve.
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[QUOTE=C Elegans]Who won't admit it??? I see post about it every week here at SYM I wish they quit "admitting" [/QUOTE]
true, but thats from the males who do admit it. there are probally many more out there who don't.
I wish they quit "admitting" [/QUOTE]true, but thats from the males who do admit it. there are probally many more out there who don't.
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[QUOTE=dark_raven]true, but thats from the males who do admit it. there are probally many more out there who don't.[/QUOTE]
Yes, there are many people around - of both genders - who prefer to keep prejudice and follow stereotypes rather than collect facts and base their opinions on them
Yes, there are many people around - of both genders - who prefer to keep prejudice and follow stereotypes rather than collect facts and base their opinions on them
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What is confusing about women anyways? I've never understood. Humans in general can sometimes be confusing (as C Elegans said), but I don't see what makes one gender more confusing than another to someone. That and I've just never gotten an answer as to what people see as confusing about the opposite gender. So what's there to figure out? If you can ask maybe someone can give you an answer. Of course if this is something like the what women want question then the answer is it depends on the specific individual/situation (ie there is no one answer).
I'm going to make a guess that the reason that people think the opposite gender is confusing is that there is an assumption that they are supposed to be, and instead of asking questions, and trying to actually figure people out, and really getting to know them people just fall back on stereotypes.
I've never found one gender to be more confusing than the other.
I'm going to make a guess that the reason that people think the opposite gender is confusing is that there is an assumption that they are supposed to be, and instead of asking questions, and trying to actually figure people out, and really getting to know them people just fall back on stereotypes.
I've never found one gender to be more confusing than the other.
actually 9/30 isn't bad.... thats about 30%, which is more than i would have guessed!
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Mag: From what I put together of your late night drunken ramblings? Vodka, 3 girls, and then we played tic-tac-toe and slapped each other around.
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picture that shows the stereotype of the diffrence between the man and the woman in the advrage male's point of view
[QUOTE=asurademon]I've never found one gender to be more confusing than the other.[/QUOTE]
nor i, but (to bring this into where i'm comming from in my argument) one of my friends wants to go back out with his ex. sevral people can see that she wants him too (she flurts with him, dances with him at school dances, tells him he should join FFA with her, after he joins... she signs him up for a trip that FFA is going on, exe). but yet, she doesn't admit that she still loves him. so the question is... why not? that's confusing to alot of my friends. (althoe, that is only one case, i've ran into many more that are even worse than that.)
[QUOTE=asurademon]I've never found one gender to be more confusing than the other.[/QUOTE]
nor i, but (to bring this into where i'm comming from in my argument) one of my friends wants to go back out with his ex. sevral people can see that she wants him too (she flurts with him, dances with him at school dances, tells him he should join FFA with her, after he joins... she signs him up for a trip that FFA is going on, exe). but yet, she doesn't admit that she still loves him. so the question is... why not? that's confusing to alot of my friends. (althoe, that is only one case, i've ran into many more that are even worse than that.)
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[QUOTE=asurademon]What is confusing about women anyways? I've never understood. Humans in general can sometimes be confusing (as C Elegans said), but I don't see what makes one gender more confusing than another to someone. That and I've just never gotten an answer as to what people see as confusing about the opposite gender. So what's there to figure out?[/QUOTE]
Nothing at all. But many people have so befuddled themselves with stereotyped expectations about the other gender, that 1) the stereotype rules confuse them, and 2) the way the other gender usually refuses to act according to stereotype confuses them.
Then, they parrott what they've heard from older members of their sex, like good manniquins: "Huh! Men! (Or women. Take your pick.) Never can figure 'em out! Just like 'em, too!"
Nothing at all. But many people have so befuddled themselves with stereotyped expectations about the other gender, that 1) the stereotype rules confuse them, and 2) the way the other gender usually refuses to act according to stereotype confuses them.
Then, they parrott what they've heard from older members of their sex, like good manniquins: "Huh! Men! (Or women. Take your pick.) Never can figure 'em out! Just like 'em, too!"
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[QUOTE=giles337]actually 9/30 isn't bad.... thats about 30%, which is more than i would have guessed![/QUOTE]
Actually its 9/39 wich is about 23%.
Sorry, I am in a bad mood.
Actually its 9/39 wich is about 23%.
Sorry, I am in a bad mood.
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[QUOTE=fable]Nothing at all. But many people have so befuddled themselves with stereotyped expectations about the other gender, that 1) the stereotype rules confuse them, and 2) the way the other gender usually refuses to act according to stereotype confuses them.
Then, they parrott what they've heard from older members of their sex, like good manniquins: "Huh! Men! (Or women. Take your pick.) Never can figure 'em out! Just like 'em, too!" [/QUOTE]
That's so very true. I didn't think of this when I first posted a reply to this thread, but actually have an experience with this. I dated a guy, quite a while ago, whom it drove insane that I wasn't emotional enough for a girl (in his opinion), I defied his stereotype of women, and it bothered him. This was a guy whom thought emotion was a sign of weakness, and that I wasn't emotional enough, so apparently I wasn't weak enough for him . This individual was actually a very moody person, (in fact I'm sure now that he had some sort of psychological disorder), so I guess he couldn't handle the fact a girl was less moody than he. I admit I until recently thought of emotions as a sign of weakness, because there's a negative cultural view of them being such that I fell into believing, but really they aren't, whether someone's weak or not all has to do with how they deal with things. Emotions can be strength or weakness depending on what one does with them.
Then, they parrott what they've heard from older members of their sex, like good manniquins: "Huh! Men! (Or women. Take your pick.) Never can figure 'em out! Just like 'em, too!"
[/QUOTE]That's so very true. I didn't think of this when I first posted a reply to this thread, but actually have an experience with this. I dated a guy, quite a while ago, whom it drove insane that I wasn't emotional enough for a girl (in his opinion), I defied his stereotype of women, and it bothered him. This was a guy whom thought emotion was a sign of weakness, and that I wasn't emotional enough, so apparently I wasn't weak enough for him
. This individual was actually a very moody person, (in fact I'm sure now that he had some sort of psychological disorder), so I guess he couldn't handle the fact a girl was less moody than he. I admit I until recently thought of emotions as a sign of weakness, because there's a negative cultural view of them being such that I fell into believing, but really they aren't, whether someone's weak or not all has to do with how they deal with things. Emotions can be strength or weakness depending on what one does with them.-
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[QUOTE=dark_raven]picture that shows the stereotype of the diffrence between the man and the woman in the advrage male's point of view
nor i, but (to bring this into where i'm comming from in my argument) one of my friends wants to go back out with his ex. sevral people can see that she wants him too (she flurts with him, dances with him at school dances, tells him he should join FFA with her, after he joins... she signs him up for a trip that FFA is going on, exe). but yet, she doesn't admit that she still loves him. so the question is... why not? that's confusing to alot of my friends. (althoe, that is only one case, i've ran into many more that are even worse than that.)[/QUOTE]
If you want to know why, you have to ask her, everyone has different reasons for these things, and for just about every situation the reasons are going to be different.
Here's an example; if I still had a crush on my ex right now I would keep it to myself for practical reasons, saying "I love you still, but I can't date you because I don't have the time, or energy for you, and I have other priorities" certainly isn't going to help the situation, so it's just better that I keep it to myself. Course I would probably be honest if the person asked if I still had feelings for them, and asked me why I didn't want to pursue a romantic relationship with them. But that's just one of many reasons a person might not come out and admit having feelings for someone, I can think of many others, and lots of different situations that would drive a person to not admit certain things (I'm not going to list more examples because it would take up a lot of space). However I, much like the girl you are talking about may very well still hang around the person I have feelings for, in a "just friends" manner.
However the person you want to understand is in a different situation than the one I stated above, and thus must have her own unique reasons. So if you want to know her reason you're going to have to ask her, because I cannot give you the reasoning behind her actions. As for the flirting thing, I don't flirt much so I'm no expert on it, but some people are just flirty, it's part of their personality, and if she has some specific reason for being flirty you'll only know if you ask her that as well (assuming she's the type of person who'd be willing to answer questions like that, some people consider these things rather private).
nor i, but (to bring this into where i'm comming from in my argument) one of my friends wants to go back out with his ex. sevral people can see that she wants him too (she flurts with him, dances with him at school dances, tells him he should join FFA with her, after he joins... she signs him up for a trip that FFA is going on, exe). but yet, she doesn't admit that she still loves him. so the question is... why not? that's confusing to alot of my friends. (althoe, that is only one case, i've ran into many more that are even worse than that.)[/QUOTE]
If you want to know why, you have to ask her, everyone has different reasons for these things, and for just about every situation the reasons are going to be different.
Here's an example; if I still had a crush on my ex right now I would keep it to myself for practical reasons, saying "I love you still, but I can't date you because I don't have the time, or energy for you, and I have other priorities" certainly isn't going to help the situation, so it's just better that I keep it to myself. Course I would probably be honest if the person asked if I still had feelings for them, and asked me why I didn't want to pursue a romantic relationship with them. But that's just one of many reasons a person might not come out and admit having feelings for someone, I can think of many others, and lots of different situations that would drive a person to not admit certain things (I'm not going to list more examples because it would take up a lot of space). However I, much like the girl you are talking about may very well still hang around the person I have feelings for, in a "just friends" manner.
However the person you want to understand is in a different situation than the one I stated above, and thus must have her own unique reasons. So if you want to know her reason you're going to have to ask her, because I cannot give you the reasoning behind her actions. As for the flirting thing, I don't flirt much so I'm no expert on it, but some people are just flirty, it's part of their personality, and if she has some specific reason for being flirty you'll only know if you ask her that as well (assuming she's the type of person who'd be willing to answer questions like that, some people consider these things rather private).