Just wondering(spoilerish i guess)

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:51 pm

Here's the problem: When i kill vivec or almalexia, i cast umbra swords soultrap for 120 secs on target and kill him/her within 10 secs after the casting.. I can see the little purple clouds rotating around them indicating that the soul trap is in effect. I have azura's star(empty), and dozens of soul gems(the best one's/the name eludes me atm.) and i can't trap their souls!, i find that truly irritating because almost the only reason i began again was because i wanted to trap their souls after completing the game, and i've heard everyone talk about it and it just doesn't work for me..

I've tried with normal soultrap spell also, and loaded it again and again to no avail..

Alien_Newborn · Post by **Alien_Newborn** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:59 pm

I think it's because Vivec and Almalexia are like quasi-NPC's (which you hopefully know are immune to soultrapping): I think he rule is that anything, with the exception of dagoth minions, that you can talk and make conversation with are immune to soul trapping. Believe me, if I could I would have all the souls of my enemies on display at my house: Dagoth Ur, all of his higher ranking minions, Vivec, Almalexia, Skovald Raven-Eye, Patriarch what's-his-name, A bunch of ordinators (high and regular), Arch mage Trebonius, That guy in vivec who hates argonians, Fargoth (eeeeeeeew).... and the list goes on.

As for the guys who say that they did it, I would bet money they're bluffing.

Ideal Maxima · Post by **Ideal Maxima** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:08 pm

[QUOTE=Alien_Newborn]I think it's because Vivec and Almalexia are like quasi-NPC's (which you hopefully know are immune to soultrapping): I think he rule is that anything, with the exception of dagoth minions, that you can talk and make conversation with are immune to soul trapping. Believe me, if I could I would have all the souls of my enemies on display at my house: Dagoth Ur, all of his higher ranking minions, Vivec, Almalexia, Skovald Raven-Eye, Patriarch what's-his-name, A bunch of ordinators (high and regular), Arch mage Trebonius, That guy in vivec who hates argonians, Fargoth (eeeeeeeew).... and the list goes on.

As for the guys who say that they did it, I would bet money they're bluffing.

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the truth is, you can trap the god souls (not sure about dagoth ur) but you cant trap a normal NPC (don't ask me why) my guess is that it's just a glitch in your game (if you're playing on PC there's some way to change the script so it works out fine, but i'm not a PCer, so I wouldn't know how, but i do know it is possible) But there's no need for a god soul, just use Golden Saints, they might not be as powerful, but the god souls don't really matter. As long as it works for constant effect, it should be just fine. So take my advice and don't bother with god souls, just use Golden Saints

Hope my advice helped

Rookierookie · Post by **Rookierookie** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:24 am

Vivec and Almalexia are not NPCs, as anyone who fiddles around with the editor will know.

paulsbo · Post by **paulsbo** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:24 am

I trapped Vivec in Azura's Star just the other day.

Mad Loco · Post by **Mad Loco** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:30 am

Dagoth cannot be soul trapped i think, but Almalexia and Vivec both can be, because as was said they are not NPCs they're classed as creatures i think. Perhaps you didn't do it right, i dunno but it should work when you go to trap them.

Wrath-Of-Egg · Post by **Wrath-Of-Egg** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:04 am

Kill them and then cast soul trap.. might not work in patched versions... But as for Dagoth Ur sould it can be trapped.. when you kill him... as you might know his body disapears.. but his soul value is 0 or 1.. so if you have PC download mod wich makes Dagoth Ur soul value 1000.. same as Vivec's soul value..

BTW.. killing creature and then casting soul trap.. you should be able to get all your soul gems filled.. Ascensdffjd (what ever) Sleepers have also 400 soul value.. same as golden saints.. but this thing might be changed by plugins like SUPER Adventures 3..

Easiest way to get that pluging would be Morrowind summit.. if you dont know how to get there.. go to google and type ** MORROWIND SUMMIT** without ** **

Ares2382 · Post by **Ares2382** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:56 pm

That bussiness with being able to soultrap dead creatures was fixed in one of the patches. So you can't do it if you have a patched game.

Alien_Newborn · Post by **Alien_Newborn** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:47 pm

[QUOTE=paulsbo]I trapped Vivec in Azura's Star just the other day.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I just found that out today: Either vivec or almalexia can be trapped in azura's star (the re-usable soul gem, for those who dont know), but only azura's star. I mean, it makes sense, doesn't it, that only a divine item can hold a divine soul.

Vivec's soul (if not used as a trophy, which is satisfying) is frickin sweet, with a charge of 1000

Wrath-Of-Egg · Post by **Wrath-Of-Egg** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:53 pm

if you cant soul trap dead creatures.. then you just need to make realy long lasting.. soul trap spell.. 10-50s.. is pointless.. make 200s spell.. if you cant cast such spell.. use toggle your god mode.. in later levels you are god so does it matter? But for those who dont like cheating.. it might cost quite much to train up skill..and if that skill is already at 100.. well find other means to cast it..

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:50 am

thanks for the responses..

@wrath-of-egg: there's no point having a 200sec soultrap spell, i can kill both of them quicker than that, i don't know why it's not working, might be a bug of some sort, and i have installed patches so soultrapping them dead won't do the trick..

My char's lvl is smth like 65-70 and just wanted to make couple of items that have a little more power than the normal 400 pts, but guess i'll have to do

i haven't played morrowind for awhile now, been busy playing NFS:U 2 so don't know how long it takes before i start again...

Wrath-Of-Egg · Post by **Wrath-Of-Egg** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:58 am

Oh sorry...

BUT ''NFS:U 2'' are you ínsane? ''FLATOUT'' is way better...