No Level Cap. AHHHHH

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:12 am

Damn it, when and why did they make that decision? It takes away the element of planning your character. I mean, IGN said so, but maybe there is a cap but they just haven't reached it yet?

Macleod1701 · Post by **Macleod1701** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:13 am

No level cap has good and bad points, the level 20 cap was very infuriating, even bumping it up to a max of 25 would have been good in KOTOR1 so maybe they wanted to readdress this and make it a bigger more fulfilling game! I think if they have done away with the cap it could only be a good thing.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:29 am

[QUOTE=Macleod1701]No level cap has good and bad points, the level 20 cap was very infuriating, even bumping it up to a max of 25 would have been good in KOTOR1 so maybe they wanted to readdress this and make it a bigger more fulfilling game! I think if they have done away with the cap it could only be a good thing.[/QUOTE]

With the difficult level of SW:KOTOR 1 bumping the level cap would have been pointless in my view.
Level caps makes it easier to balance the game (in theory).
I genereally like level caps in games.
I hope SW:KOTOR 2 becomes way harder then the first (also puzzles and real life brain activiy as simply more monsters)

KrazyJedi · Post by **KrazyJedi** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:27 am

[QUOTE=ajdaha]Damn it, when and why did they make that decision? It takes away the element of planning your character. I mean, IGN said so, but maybe there is a cap but they just haven't reached it yet?[/QUOTE]

I can see this both ways. True, with a cap you must be more deliberate about choices during the level-up process (particularly with regard to Feats and Powers). However, I don't think it eliminates the need for planning altogether.

What will makes a difference is the game balance and how they achieve it. If they simply throw more enemies at you at higher levels or just make levels too easy to gain, then you're right, eliminating the level cap is a bad idea. But if they make the levels WORTH gaining, that's another story.

Yeltsu · Post by **Yeltsu** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:41 am

Well I think they might make it like Fallout 2 where the lvl cap was 99 but most people finished the game at lvl 20 - 25

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:05 pm

99? There's no way that will happen, because there aren't anywhere near the number of feats and force powers.

Yeltsu · Post by **Yeltsu** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:38 pm

Well, it was only a suggestion, but you know, no one would reach lvl 99 (at least not in Fallout 2) because of the immense ammounts of exp needed to advance to those lvls. So they could make enough force powers and feats to last untill something lke lvl 30.

So it would be fun to try and reach lvl 30 to gain all the feats and such, but that would only be done by hardcore gamers who spent the entire game searching for scraps of exp.

Of course, it would be possible to ge to higher lvls, but not much use since all you got was some skill points and hp.

So then you have a game without a constricting lvl cap, but also balanced since it would be unreasnoble for players to advance beyond the "feat limit" of lvl 30. But it still offers possibilities for hardcore powergaming since one can advance almost as far as one wants.

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:30 pm

What is the point of power gaming when one is playing against a computer. I mean in an MMORPG, I would understand but in Kotor ?

Question, very impotant.
Could someone confirm for me that Kotor II is released on the Xbox in the UK today as well? I didn't have time to go to Game. Please, I need to know. Thank you, good night.

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:20 pm

Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnm its not getting released in here until next year. Why the helllllllllllllllll!!!!??!?!?

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:26 am

[QUOTE=ajdaha]Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnm its not getting released in here until next year. Why the helllllllllllllllll!!!!??!?!?[/QUOTE]

You have a problem with stuck keys on your keyboard?

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:46 pm

No?
But I do have a problem expressing my anger. Is thattttttttt a problemmmmmm??????????

Yeltsu · Post by **Yeltsu** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:53 pm

[QUOTE=ajdaha]Is thattttttttt a problemmmmmm??????????[/QUOTE]

no....

I just think it looks silly

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:20 pm

ajdaha wrote:No?
But I do have a problem expressing my anger. Is thattttttttt a problemmmmmm??????????

Well - when taking into account:

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ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:37 pm

Oww, I don't like him already.

I don't see how my jokes can offend people, and the extra letters to convey emotion surely cannot be counted as spam?

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:28 am

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ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:23 pm

Ok, back to the topic then. No level cap, my god.

Babaji · Post by **Babaji** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:36 pm

thank god

finally! no lvl cap means i can get way up there, i am huge on getting lvls its my favourite thing to do in a game, and i hated it when i was on manann in the old game and i couldnt gain any more lvls, i couldnt learn any new force powers of feats, it seriously pissed me off, this news makes my day i dont care what anyone says

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:45 pm

Well, you know, they could solve that problem by giving us more levels, but not unlimmited levels. Okay, so lets see what happens when you reach a level where there are no more force powers or feats available to you. What then? Holy Rasberries, this takes away the planning your character element almost completely away. Note: I did say almost, but that almost is enough to make me not buy this game, and instead buy the first for the PC so that I can get the damned Circlet of Saresh.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:57 pm

[QUOTE=ajdaha]Well, you know, they could solve that problem by giving us more levels, but not unlimmited levels. Okay, so lets see what happens when you reach a level where there are no more force powers or feats available to you. What then? Holy Rasberries, this takes away the planning your character element almost completely away. Note: I did say almost, but that almost is enough to make me not buy this game, and instead buy the first for the PC so that I can get the damned Circlet of Saresh.[/QUOTE]

not likely...

SO MANY NEW FEATS AND FORCE POWERS!!!

ok, i am p.o. that so far at least one darkside power i've been wanting has been left out, but it might be a prestige class only power, so i am crossing fingers...

but the new list of powers and feats is pretty huge...i would guess at least level 75 to get all of them...

and there are SIGNIFICANT changes made to the feats and powers tree, as well as some interesting twists to skills...

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:19 pm

There may be lots of new feats and powers but I'm sure that one will not be able to play even half of them in one character because they will be only available to certain clases. Am I wrong?