Conjuration...

lifeishell91 · Post by **lifeishell91** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:42 am

Do you think Conjuration is a well worth skill?
I think so, I love summoning creatures but since it takes a little while, and since animals attack me randomly and I have to act quickly, I usually refrain from it as a skill, so I rather enchant it onto something so it doesn't take so much Magicka and I can retaliate quickly, even thought I usually play a pure mage.

What do you think?

moltovir · Post by **moltovir** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:10 pm

It is very handy in the beginning of the game.. Yesterday my level 2 mage managed to defeat 2 scamps (an absolute horror for a 30hp character) by summoning a fire atronach. I think it becomes pretty useless to summon creatures when you advance in level, but bound armor stays one of the best spells in the game.

Greg. · Post by **Greg.** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:50 pm

Conjuration is pretty useful, although i would not say it is the best school of magic - alteration gets that. Conjuration is still pretty useful for bound armour. The best use is probably in conjunction with mysticism and enchant - soulgems with golden saint/ascended sleepers are pretty good. Cheesy, but useful.

Alien_Newborn · Post by **Alien_Newborn** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:06 pm

I personally enjoy conjuration quite a bit: the ability to have minions to do one's dirty work is quite satisfying, not to mention the control spells

What I think they should have done, though, is take a page from MTG's book and have a spell so that when you kill a creature, you can cast the spell on it and from that point on, you will be able to summon that creature, but it will be all
zombified/horribly disfigured/rotting/ a little from all three columns

That would have been a great spell for necromancers

Volk · Post by **Volk** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:27 pm

Conjuration is amazing, my summoned frost atroach killed two ordinators that i couldnt for the life of me kill. Hence Conjuration is incredibly usefull.

Rookierookie · Post by **Rookierookie** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:16 am

I find it most useful in combat when I have someplace convenient to hide on while my pets slug it out with the enemy.

However, the best use I've found for it is for summoning Golden Saints.

Squee · Post by **Squee** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:21 am

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however mysticism is better! Drain health (and other things) is just too darn cheesy.

DARK SAGE · Post by **DARK SAGE** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:54 am

Well as a dark elf I need to improve it in order to gain levels.But i also see it as a useful skill eventhough I mostly use enchantments because I think they are much more effective.

Lowkei · Post by **Lowkei** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:28 am

but

I think conjuration is a great skill to have, but and this is a big but only if it's a high level because in my personal experiance unless its past level70 at least it misses quite alot when trying to summon up stronger beasts (suck as winged twilights and golden saints) and in a tight situation like a battle you don't have time to keep summoning somthing over and over again. sorry to be a downer but conjuration is more trouble then it's worth, i would just stick to scrolls when it comes to summoning because they never fail (so far lol).

Volk · Post by **Volk** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:16 pm

Conjuration scrools are still conjuration spells though arent they? therefore conjuration as a school of magic is good, regardless of weather you use a scrool or cast the spell.

beornica · Post by **beornica** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:58 pm

I only bother using it when I play a pure mage, and then I mark it down in my major skill slot. Early level mages are pretty rotty, so it's nice to have a biiiig, strooooong daedra to come to your rescue when you're in a fix. I remember the first time I played, I actually tried to kill... ummm... that high elf in Balmora (think thieve's guild quest - but I forgot his name) and he must have cast a scroll of Lord Mhas's Vengeance. I just know I was amazed that he all of a sudden had kick-butt armor, and I thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. It almost makes you think about foregoing buying armor altogether and just getting some great conjuration spells... but, nahhh. (oh, I MUST figure out how to permanently keep that lovely armor, I know it can be done, and I know others less dense than me have done it...)(help?)

Nagroth · Post by **Nagroth** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:37 am

@Beornica :

What you can do is to enchant some exquisite piece of clothing (pants, shirts, whatever) with a constant effect Bound Armor. I did this for my mage character, helped him survive long enough to summon pets. However, the efficiency of the bound armor is still dependent on your armor skill, so don´t expect to turn an untrained mage char into the Great Meatshield of Destruction by simply giving him some bound armor.

Conjuration is nice, you have to be very careful though which critter you summon. I died several times because a Frost/Fire Atronach I had summoned decided it was a good idea to use spells in close quarters. The splash damage killed me as well. So, when I conjure critters, I prefer non-Spellcasters like Daedra or Saints.

BTW : does anybody know if it is possible to soultrap summoned critters? Some people advise it, but it doesn´t seem to work for me. Has this been removed in a patch ?

Rookierookie · Post by **Rookierookie** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:52 am

It' works, and my Morrowind is fully patched.

beornica · Post by **beornica** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:53 am

Thanks!
At your "BTW" - sounds as if it was removed in a mod, since soul trapping a summoned creature is easy as pie. It's my favorite way to recharge my things in a hurry... or instantly have that golden saint soul gem I need without trekking around for an hour real time. (why would a mod do that, though? Now THAT'S hard core...)

Nagroth · Post by **Nagroth** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:04 am

Okay, I am running so many mods, I don´t know which one might be responsible. I am thinking, maybe Super-Adventurers, but no way to be sure. Doesn´t hurt too much, though, because I rarely play pure mage chars and only use souls to have items enchanted permanently.

radicalrude · Post by **radicalrude** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:08 am

Conjuration Rules!

Conjuration is Totally Cool when having the ability to levitate permanently.
Just Fly over ugly beasts , shoot some fireballs and summon anything you like!
They even go underwater and smash up the annoying little critters....

Rookierookie · Post by **Rookierookie** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:15 am

Indeed! You are very right!

Until you realize that levitate isn't conjuration...

Darth Potato · Post by **Darth Potato** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:16 am

conjuration is ok early in the game but when u get stronger u don't need it

Darth Potato · Post by **Darth Potato** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:19 am

conjuration is when u summon weapons , armour and creatures.

Alien_Newborn · Post by **Alien_Newborn** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:34 am

yes, I think we all already knew that

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