amn versus baldur's gate...

dark__ranger · Post by **dark__ranger** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 6:36 am

Ok, if baldur's gate and amn went to war, like almost happened in BG1, who do you think would've won? I mean, Amn does have the shadow thieves, but still they'd be fighting a war leagues away, baldur's gate would be fighting in their back yard...

Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 6:42 am

I think BG would win.....better city to live, i think, that's why my vote goes there...

dark__ranger · Post by **dark__ranger** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 6:46 am

that's true, of course amn does boast very gooood assassins. don't even need an army, just take out key personnel

speedball · Post by **speedball** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 6:48 am

Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Baldur's Gate just a city and Amn an entire nation? If so, Amn would crush them.

Now, Baldur's Gate against Athkantla (or however you spell it) would be a different story...

dark__ranger · Post by **dark__ranger** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 6:52 am

didn't friendly arm and even nashkel fall under the dominion of baldur's gate? hm i wonder if candlekeep would assisst (if they'd even have any help to give except a few guys running around in robes)

Raven Avenger · Post by **Raven Avenger** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 6:58 am

So it's SwordCoast vs. Amn, isn't?

dark__ranger · Post by **dark__ranger** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 7:08 am

lol...amn would still win. But i mean baldur's gate didnt have all the cowled wizards stuff and shadow thieves HQ..if it came down to total victory or total death...hell, athkatla would probably StILL kick Bg's and friendly arm and nashkell all together. But i think BG did have a more cultured city (where else would you find noblemen walking about the street with dirty peasants

ColinK · Post by **ColinK** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 7:19 am

That would be an uneasy situation for the Shadow thieves as they have agents in both Baldurs Gate and Amn.
I think Amn would win even though the Gate has the renouned flaming fist warriors.
Mainly because Amn is a Nation, it is the richest in Faerun along with Waterdeep and therefore could muster a much larger army than the gate.

Kayless · Post by **Kayless** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 7:39 am

Britain was a great and powerful nation and it lost to a ragtag band of colonials defending their backyards (in a little thing called the Revolutionary War). To me Baldur’s Gate and the surrounding area embodies more of that spirit then the avaricious merchant nation of Amn. Don’t underestimate the power of a few rural peasants defending their homes.

Lews Therin · Post by **Lews Therin** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 8:13 am

I think the Amn folks have to be pretty tough. What with beholders, mind flayers, and liches behind every door, and dragons and demons all over the place. Just serviving to adulthood must be a major feat in that part of the world. What do we have on the sword coast, just wolves, basilisks, and kobolds. Not near as tough growing up there.

dark__ranger · Post by **dark__ranger** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 8:22 am

if they had some sort of a map detailing where all the major settlements were (neverwinter, waterdeep etc.etc.) no doubt it wouldnt be hard to tell who had the strategic advantages...but youre right about the ragtag colonists, kayless

Raidri · Post by **Raidri** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 10:38 am

dark_ranger,

Nashkell belongs to Amn (you meet Amnish soldiers there, just talk to them).

I think it's Beregost that has a mayor from Baldur's Gate.

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 11:10 am

In the BG world, the lowliest mercenary in Athkatla is about the same level as the toughest stuff the Gate has to offer...

dark__ranger · Post by **dark__ranger** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 11:13 am

youre right, i always noticed that...God! NEWSPAPER HEADLINE>>>Amnish amatuers best baldur's gate super experts!

Path of Wind · Post by **Path of Wind** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 11:48 am

I would vote for Sword Coast over Amn. Amnish regulation over Magic forced many wizards to leave. Remember, in BG2 manual Elminster comment? " Even I had to be careful in these lands?", or something. So I would think there are more better Mages you could find in the Sword Coast, and those who do not live their would probably support BG just because I do not see the possibility of any free mage liking Amn.

[ 08-17-2001: Message edited by: Path of Wind ]

dark__ranger · Post by **dark__ranger** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 11:50 am

nice point there, but remember athkatla has it's own mage facilities, so any rogue mages, even if they were cooperational, would be next to useless when comapared with the likes of the shadow thieves or cowled wizzies.

THE JAKER · Post by **THE JAKER** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 11:52 am

Yeah it seems like there are plenty of mages in Athkatla, I guess they're just all 5.000 gold poorer than the ones in BG.

dark__ranger · Post by **dark__ranger** » Fri Aug 17, 2001 11:55 am

oh, you *crack* me up jaker, ::sniff, ah:: you really do