Changing crystal properties

jnb619 · Post by **jnb619** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:41 pm

Hey guys, I'm a new member but I've played through the game several times before and read through threads for help on occassion.

I have a question about crystals that I hadn't noticed before when I was playing. Do some crystal change or negate properties of other crystals? I have the patch for the FP regeneration and it says Damind gives a +2 FP regen. But when i equip it with another crystal, I can't remember which one it was at the moment, i know it would help, the +2 FP regen doesn't show up on the saber description anymore. Any help?

Badseed · Post by **Badseed** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:00 pm

Hmmm, I'm sorry, I can't answer your specific question as I have never used that crystal too much.

But I am pretty sure that crystals don't effect each other. (Except the Mantle and the Heart from the Yavin Station.) Crystal's effects stack on each other, but don't effect each other. Maybe there is a bug with that particular crystal. I hope someone more knowledgeable can help answer this.

sun_facer · Post by **sun_facer** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:16 am

I assume yours is the PC version right? Sorry if I can't be much help then.

I think so far, what the screen sez of the crystal combi.. that will be what you get in battle. I have just got only one point to note - The red double - lightsaber you get from Darth Bandon is a SPECIAL one....

Badseed · Post by **Badseed** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:25 am

I just found this while browsing here:

Saber Crystals

At the bottom is a section about Force Regeneration Crystals being bugged.

jnb619 · Post by **jnb619** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:13 am

Yes badseed, but it also says that was before patch 1.03 which I have. I haven't tested it to see if that property is still in effect like the guy on the crystal guide did by clocking the time for full regeneration. It may be just that the screen ran out of room to list all the properties? It's not that big of a deal because I can cast Death Field about 15 times before running out of FP but it was just odd that the property disappeared on the screen.

And yes, I am playing the PC version.

Macleod1701 · Post by **Macleod1701** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:29 am

[QUOTE=sun_facer]I assume yours is the PC version right? Sorry if I can't be much help then.

I think so far, what the screen sez of the crystal combi.. that will be what you get in battle. I have just got only one point to note - The red double - lightsaber you get from Darth Bandon is a SPECIAL one....[/QUOTE]

In what way is DB's saber special, does it affect the stats of crystals? I've read on another thread that there is nothing special about it whatsoever, it certainly doesn't seem any differnt

sun_facer · Post by **sun_facer** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:50 am

I think the Mods would consider this a spoiler... so... well... look away if u dun want to know... i dun want to have to black out this entire chunk.

I got this from UserUnfriendly who so kindly gave me this info...

Once again... look away if u dun want to know...

(this is from PeaceNLove's faq about lightsabre crystals in gamefaq)

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b. DARTH BANDON'S LIGHTSABER

i. Crystal Effects

Mike Liu brought to my attention that, under certain circumstances, Darth
Bandon would leave his lightsaber in his remains, which treats nearly all
enhancing crystals differently. This lightsaber shows up as an ordinary red
double-bladed lightsaber but is separate from the rest of the other red
double-bladed lightsabers in your inventory and on the Workbench screen. It
can only be obtained by fighting Bandon on Manaan after leaving the underwater
kolto factory (Manaan must be the third planet you obtain a Star Map on AFTER
Dantooine, so the fourth planet you obtain a Star Map on essentially).

The crystals are either unaffected, or altered for the better and/or worse.
This is the list of effects on the enhancing crystals when input into Darth
Bandon's lightsaber. Note: If the red crystal is removed from the lightsaber,
it reverts to a regular double-bladed lightsaber.

UNNAFFECTED
Rubat - Damage +1, Attack +1

WORSE EFFECTS
Sigil - Damage - Energy +1-6 only
Nextor - 2x Critical Threat Range only
Opila - +2-6dmg on critical hit only
Jenruax - Blaster Deflection +5 only

BETTER/WORSE EFFECTS
Damind - Damage +2, Attack +2
Krayt Dragon Pearl - Attack +4 only
Luxum - Attack +3 vs. droids only
Firkrann - Attack +4 vs. droids only
Solari - Damage +3, +1-6 Physical Damage vs. Dark Side, Attack +5
Limitation: Can only be used by a Light Jedi
Upari - Damage +5, Attack +5

BETTER EFFECTS
Bondar - On Hit - Stun 100% for 6 seconds, Save - DC10 to negate stun
Eralam - Damage +3, Attack +3
Sapith - Damage +4, Attack +4

ii. Crystal Combinations

Since Darth Bandon's lightsaber alters the effects of almost all enhancing
crystals, I thought I'd add some effective crystal combinations should you
choose to use it.

DAMAGE & ATTACK POWER
Crystals Used: Sapith, Upari

Upgrade(s): Damage +9
Attack +9

Benefits: This lightsaber combo provides guaranteed +9 damage to your
lightsaber, making it a powerful force against any opponent. The unbelievable
+9 to attack will also help guarantee hits on your opponent, designating this
as one of the most formidable double-bladed lightsabers.

LIGHT SIDE
Crystals Used: Solari, Upari

Upgrade(s): Damage +8, +1-6 Physical Damage vs. Dark Side
Attack +10

Limitation: Can only be used by a Light Jedi

Benefits: This is similar to the normal Light Side crystal combination but
with the added benefits of a guaranteed +8 to damage and an amazing +10 to
attack. The damage versus Dark Side opponents is only slightly reduced.

STUN SABER
Crystals Used: Bondar, Upari

Upgrade(s): Damage +5
Attack +5
On Hit - Stun 100% for 6 seconds
Save - DC10 to negate stun

Benefits: Bondar comes with a sweet 100% chance of stun as opposed to the
measly 25% under normal circumstances. The DC10 is still low however, and this
lightsaber may not benefit you later in the game.

Macleod1701 · Post by **Macleod1701** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:15 am

Damn shame I sold the bloody thing now isn't it! Oh well two sabers are better than one as the old saying goes lol

sun_facer · Post by **sun_facer** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:18 am

Well, double lightsabers have the advantage of being the highest damage in the entire game.
But carrying bandon's saber is indeed weird in it's own way. 1st of all, it's red. can't change the darn colour. Secondly, its looks the same as the rest unless you identify it by installing the affected crystals.

With all the dislikes I have for carrying bandon's saber, it is still the single MOST POWERFUL melee weapon in the entire game. With it, I entered the last stage single handed... and killed almost everyone with master speed and forcejump, using the solari + upari combo.

But it does not alter your enjoyment of the game.. unless you want to be a total control freak.

Macleod1701 · Post by **Macleod1701** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:19 am

Well it's too late for my LS Sentinel to get it unless I go back and buy it. Maybe my Consular could benefit from it once he aquires it.

FourtySeven · Post by **FourtySeven** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:01 pm

Have you compared that to the Mantle of the Force + Heart of the guardian Light Saber/ Short Light Saber combos?