Favoite Clan?

LaCroix · Post by **LaCroix** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:16 pm

What are you guys favoite clan to play as? Plus Explain Why

For me its either Ventrue or Gangrel

Ventrue: The Real Nobles of the Undead, lotta cash, flash suits. The clan also reminds me of Dracula for some reason....

Gangrel: Gangrels are just cool for me, the predator type of clan, awesome unarmed fighters, gotta love em

Lucita · Post by **Lucita** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:23 pm

Toreador - Good allrounders, can be quite good at fighters, maipulators and rogues.
Malkavian - Just for the fun....

My favourite Clan is missing as a playable Clan of course....Lasombra, the children of shadow....

Cryos · Post by **Cryos** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:13 pm

Tremere so far. They have a sort of...exclusive feel to them. Also, I'm just prone to magey type characters.

Lugaru · Post by **Lugaru** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:22 pm

The time we played the tabletop I really enjoyed the Tizmisce and Nosferatu since Im really not into the whole "goth, goth, pain, pain" vampire stereotype or the "woo whoo! I am the matrix" type of play that many brujah and toreador users have (trench coat, katana, mp5's, a 9mm in each hand slightly tilted to the side...)

Creatures like the nosferatu represent the "monster" side of vampires... which I prefer by a lot.

Fenris Wolf · Post by **Fenris Wolf** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:39 pm

My favorite clan is easily Toreador. I just like their whole philosophy of hedonism. Although its very selfish, an eternity of arts and pleasures doesn't sound all that bad to me.

To LaCroix about the Ventrue reminding you of Dracula: I know this guy isn't really "Dracula" but according to this website http://vampire49.tripod.com/clans/tzimisce.html Vlad Tepes III (the man who inspired Dracula) was a Tzimisce. Just thought that was an interesting discovery.

Lucita · Post by **Lucita** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 6:04 am

Dracula is a Tzimisce in Whitewolves Vampire World.

For those who wanna know, here some of his stats:

Sire: Lambach Ruthven
Generation: 5th
Embrace: 1495
Strength: 4
Dexterity: 4
Stamina: 4
Charisma: 4
Manipulation: 5
Appearance: 3
Perception: 4
Intelligence: 5
Wits: 6

Disciplines: Animalism 6, Auspex 2, Celerity 2,Dominate 4, Fortitude 3, Potence 3, Protean 4, Thaumathurgy ( Koldunic Sorcery ) 5, Vicissitude 5.

Humanity: 3

From Vampire: Childen of the Night Sourcebook

Talley_theHound · Post by **Talley_theHound** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:30 am

Thank you for the info Lucita, my most formable opponent. Having never actually had the chance to play the PnP V:TM, I am a avid player of V:TES/Jyhad from its beginning and have read about 99% of the novels, I have always wondered about Dracula. By his historical description I would have thought he was Lasombra (mainly the no reflection). But being a big Tremere fan, I knew that part of Europe was mostly Tzimisce so it makes since.

My favorite Bloodlines PC of course is the Tremere. But I have been trying all the others. My second game was with a Makavian, lots of fun and laughs. Right now I’m doing a Brujah using Damsel’s skin (trying to play as a Brujah would act).
I hope they come out with an expansion with the Lasombra, Obtenebration would be so fun!!!

FYI: OBTENEBRATION, a discipline used by Lasombra Kindred, The darkness Obtenebration calls forth has substance. It can entangle targets and even inflict damage. It absorbs sounds and scents as well as light. On the other hand, it doesn’t seem to have much if any weight of its own, and it has no substance that any chemical analysis can detect. The shadow-stuff operates by rules unlike those that govern nature. from V:TM Clanbook Lasombra

LaCroix · Post by **LaCroix** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:51 am

Gangrel rulez

[QUOTE=Lucita]Dracula is a Tzimisce in Whitewolves Vampire World.

For those who wanna know, here some of his stats:

Sire: Lambach Ruthven
Generation: 5th
Embrace: 1495
Strength: 4
Dexterity: 4
Stamina: 4
Charisma: 4
Manipulation: 5
Appearance: 3
Perception: 4
Intelligence: 5
Wits: 6

Disciplines: Animalism 6, Auspex 2, Celerity 2,Dominate 4, Fortitude 3, Potence 3, Protean 4, Thaumathurgy ( Koldunic Sorcery ) 5, Vicissitude 5.

Humanity: 3

From Vampire: Childen of the Night Sourcebook[/QUOTE]

I didnt think Dracula had a sire.... intresting

Its too bad u dont get to play as a Tzimisce? Wonder why...

I just though of Dracula was one of those Nobles... you know, living in a castle and all

Lucita · Post by **Lucita** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:09 am

Obtenebration and indeed playing a Lasombra or Tzimisce would be fun, if you could play Bloodlines with a Sabbat Beginning....

Playing an Antitribu of these Clans would be nice too, but of course there are just a few of them Worldwide.

@LaCroix:

Every Vampire/Cainite in Whitewolve's Vampire has a Sire, going back to Caine himself. Caine sired 3 childer ( the 2nd Generation, the 1st is another matter everyone should find out of them by himself, it took me 5 years until I found out who they were ! ), the 2nd Generation sired 13 or more childer ( 13 started the Bloodlines, if there were more, they are quite possible destroyed by now and lost to history ).

@ Talley the Hound:

Ahhh....nice to see one of my Nemesis too....

Talley_theHound · Post by **Talley_theHound** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:01 am

A Sabbat story would rock!

@ Lucita:

I am pleased that you have decided to come back into the fold Archbishop. My sincere regrets for the loss of your sire and my patron the Cardinal Moncada.

Your Brother in Clan, Templar, Sir Talley a.k.a The Hound

LaCroix · Post by **LaCroix** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:24 am

[QUOTE=Talley_theHound]A Sabbat story would rock!

@ Lucita:

I am pleased that you have decided to come back into the fold Archbishop. My sincere regrets for the loss of your sire and my patron the Cardinal Moncada.

Your Brother in Clan, Templar, Sir Talley a.k.a The Hound[/QUOTE]

Moon Maiden · Post by **Moon Maiden** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:27 pm

a few of my favorite clans...

I've only played as a tremere, a malkavian, and a ventrue. I have to say that out of the three, I enjoyed the malkavian the most for the dialogue options, and obfuscate is just an awesome discipline! I have played a malkavian in the table top/dice version with some friends of mine (two were fey, one was a werewolf, and one was a mage), and I loved it (until the werewolf killed me...). I really love the dominate discipline of the tremere and ventrue though...if I could, I would have a malkavian with obfuscate, dominate, and thumaturgy...that would be awesome, as I would practically be unstoppable...hehehe...and crazy...what a combination...

Moon Maiden

Hemothorax · Post by **Hemothorax** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:54 pm

*Definitely* Malkavian.
Why? 'Cause their dialogue options are *brilliant*. Oh, and I love dementating people ("You are hungry. Your friends are salmon" / "Are you enjoying your maggots?")

pennypincher · Post by **pennypincher** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:20 pm

I can't imagine a Tzimisce would be much fun to play in bloodlines (sorry to all you blood hungry, frenzied sabbat wannabies) seeing as the younger clan members posses Vicissitude, which really lends itself to role playing rather then point and click...

Now, if you mannaged to capture people and you got a whole new screen where you could click and drag their flesh and bone around to make new, BETTER people... Hmmm *strokes his chin in thought*

Meanwhile, wasn't Vlad killed in the Transilvania chronicles? I remember WANTING to kill him!

As for the clan that dillys my daddle the most? Ventrue! I know the Malkavians also KINDA get to use powers in dialog, but with Ventrue, using it just had a more classy, powerful feel to it. Rather then "Look! Fish!" I loved the feel of "I shall neither wait, nor be seen."... Made ya proud!!

Anyway.. Er.. Strike: Conversation Ends! Pennypincher spends a blood.

Lucita · Post by **Lucita** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:01 pm

Hmmm....don't remember it anymore if Dracula was killed at the end of the Transylvanian Chronicles ( even though I played a role in it ).

Of course, we all met final death by now....

If you all want a glimpse of Gehenna, take a look at the "real" Beckett, Lucita and some others, read the Gehenna: The Final Night novel.

Awesome ending.....

Nietzscheserbe · Post by **Nietzscheserbe** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:36 pm

I thought the Tzimisce clan did not want to have anything to do with Dracula, he must have pissed them off somehow.

Malkavian, why...i feel right at home with them

Back in high school I used to LARP alot (i never got into table top though) , well originaly I started Larping becasue they had some really hot goth chicks playing

but i got into the whole universe, so iv been playing Malks mostly and somehow always managed to piss off the prince. Was also a good excuse to do really funny things!

Thous where fun times, we acutaly rented a old Southern Plantation House (in bad shape) from some Redneck and played the game in there, we had up to 40 people, alot of SCAD (Savanna College of Art and Design) graduates playing, se we had really kick ass props and costumes in the game.

Then somone decided to burn down the house, it turne dout to be a pissed off larper who lost his favorit character in a Lasombra raid, and he thought it wasnt fair or some crap. Some people take this game WAY to seriusly.

KRose · Post by **KRose** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:09 pm

Malkavian all the way! Although I quite liked Toreador and Tremere too. Malkavian was just the funniest. After all, who else gets the unique experiance of conversation with lifeless, in-animate objects? Besides, some of my dialogues with the Prince were fun... "It was gone, but there were lot's of dinosaurs, so I had fun." Teeheehee...

docking · Post by **docking** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:01 am

Vlad Tepes III????

To LaCroix about the Ventrue reminding you of Dracula: I know this guy isn't really "Dracula" but according to this website http://vampire49.tripod.com/clans/tzimisce.html Vlad Tepes III (the man who inspired Dracula) was a Tzimisce. Just thought that was an interesting discovery.

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Who is Vlad Tepes III? he didnt even existed. And the person who started the Dracula mith was Vlad's father Vlad Dracul. He was named that way because he was a knight with the Dragon order and he had a terrifying armour too

. So after him the whole family was maned Draculea by the nobility of that time because they considered them cruel( not true , the only wanted the good 4 the simple people). oh and Vlad Tepes( the impales) he got that name because he would impale trators and turks so he was a good man too( with a sick sence of justice but good).
I'm a big fan of the game but i just hate this kind of things justbeend sayd for fiction(that beeing a romanian).
Oh and favourite clan:Malkavian- the most fun to play. Great lines of dialog and the dementation and obfuscate just owesome.I would have prefered thet the Tzimice would have been availeble but... maybe in the future

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:57 pm

[QUOTE=Nietzscheserbe]I thought the Tzimisce clan did not want to have anything to do with Dracula, he must have pissed them off somehow.[/QUOTE]

In WoD v. 1 (he's been respun some in the VtR materials), Dracula was never quite a clan-bound Tzimisce. He and his father, discovering many of the secrets of vampires early on, effectively hunted and killed many Tzimisce in their kingdom, during his life. Dracula even began feeding off some Tzimisce he captured in order to gain their power (i.e. as a ghoul would). This was why staking was a favorite form of torture for him; he would stake Tzimisce vampires - which would not kill them but would incapacitate them (i.e. sending them into torpor) - and feed off them. Eventually, Dracula captures and forces one of the Tzimisce to turn him into a vampire.

This is not to say that this completely alienated him from his clan; the Tzimisce reflected his brutality and personal power. However, Dracula never operated within the perimeters of the clan. He did, as time went on, associate himself at different times with both the Camarilla and Sabbat. Still, he was very good at playing them against one another. As such, he was always more of an independent player than anything. And, like many Tzimisce elders, his personal power was such that his lack of interest in clan politics, never made him an outright target.

As for my personal favorite clan, I found that my favorites to play were not necessarilly my favorite clans. In the PnP mythology I always enjoyed the "old" Brujah (the idealists were always fascinating to me). Likewise, the Gangrel were always an interesting clan. The Tremere, with their closed ways and vast magical reosurcres, were always intriguing as well. Still, as for gameplay purposes, I probably enjoyed Malkavian (the second time through) and Ventrue (I really enjoyed Dominate and Fortitude) the most. I didn't care for Protean as all, so the Gangrel wasn't very entertaining for me, and my system was never quite powerful enough to get full advantage or enjoyment out of the very powerful celerity disciplines of the Brujah and Toreador.

pennypincher · Post by **pennypincher** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:33 pm

I'm, er, not sure where docking is reading what he/she is reading, but Vlad The Impaler.. outside of whitewolf fiction... Was a man who is said to have tourtured people to death over months and months on a simple whim, claiming them to have been traitors, and is said to have nailed turbans to the head of visiting dignitaries who asked to be allowed to ware them inside, and impaled people alive on tall spears outside his gates when asked if they could be ransomed back.