The Mysterious Origins of The Old Strongholds

oozae · Post by **oozae** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:34 pm

I was just wandering does anyone know the origin of the old strongholds that are scattered all over vaardenfall.

Wrath-Of-Egg · Post by **Wrath-Of-Egg** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:42 pm

Well... those things belonged to ashlanders and great houses. i am pretty sure that'' house dagoth '' owned northern side of vvardenfel.

oozae · Post by **oozae** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:58 pm

I always thought dwemer but maybe older dwemer, dwemer more dunmer than dwemer as they were all one race which you probably know (if you don't you can check here The Library.) And I thought this because of a certain book I read, although most of the authors books were true he usually changed stories to make them 'Dwemer', he was supposed to be a dwemer... specialist is the best word I can come up with, anyway some people thought that he was a fake.

moltovir · Post by **moltovir** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:49 am

Dunmer and Dwemer are two different types of Mer. I think the strongholds were the old Chimer strongholds before they (the Chimer) changed to Dunmer and either returned to their former tribal lifes, or became "civilized", sich as the 5 remaining Great Houses.

dairy · Post by **dairy** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:46 pm

[QUOTE=moltovir]Dunmer and Dwemer are two different types of Mer. I think the strongholds were the old Chimer strongholds before they (the Chimer) changed to Dunmer and either returned to their former tribal lifes, or became "civilized", sich as the 5 remaining Great Houses.[/QUOTE]

five remaining great houses?

telvanni, redoran, hlaalu...who am i missing?

RebelousDarkElf · Post by **RebelousDarkElf** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:05 pm

I think the Great Houses, and the Dwemer caves, are they considered strongholds? They are pretty big.

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:41 pm

[QUOTE=dairy]five remaining great houses?

telvanni, redoran, hlaalu...who am i missing?[/QUOTE]

House Indoril, House of Dagoth Ur????

oozae · Post by **oozae** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:43 pm

[QUOTE=dragon wench]House Indoril, House of Dagoth Ur????[/QUOTE]
You are missing House Dres, also the Dwemer were referred to as house dunmer, House Dwemer they were called I believe.

moltovir · Post by **moltovir** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:45 am

Extinct houses:
House Dagoth
House Dwemer
(House Velothi?)

Surviving houses:
House Telvanni
House Hlaalu
House Redoran
House Indoril (very religious)
House Dres (slave traders)

Wrath-Of-Egg · Post by **Wrath-Of-Egg** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:45 am

Well.. there is many other extinct houses and ashlander tribes..

But as for Velothi.. i serisuly doubt that it was one of chimer great houses.

Alien_Newborn · Post by **Alien_Newborn** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:22 pm

I think there was actually some reference to house velothi during a part of the main quest (sorry I can't be specific, but the whole thing would be a lot to remember)

Greg. · Post by **Greg.** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:31 pm

I thought six great houses were :
Redoran
Hlaalu
telvanni
Indoril
Dwemner
Sixth house - dagoth
Velothi and Dres are lesser houses - i think.

I always thought strongholds were predating tribunal and heart of Lorkhan(?) when dunmer worshipped daedra

Wrath-Of-Egg · Post by **Wrath-Of-Egg** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:51 pm

Well... as for strongholds.. why dont you just visit official lore forum.

oozae · Post by **oozae** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:08 am

You mean at The Elderscrolls website?

moltovir · Post by **moltovir** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:20 am

From what I know of TES lore, Velothi and Dres aren't lesser houses, they just operate on the mainland of Vvardenfell and have no influence in the island of Morrowind. Velothi (the house of the ancient Dunmer hero Veloth) has long died out, but Dres is still very active in the northeasternmost part of Tamriel.
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Wrath-Of-Egg · Post by **Wrath-Of-Egg** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:41 am

[QUOTE=oozae]You mean at The Elderscrolls website?[/QUOTE]
yes..

But as for Moltovir.. better way to say it would be Southeastmost area of Morrowind.

. their capital is called as Tear.. and they pretty much like old traditions... so they are Tamriel version of... (keep dreaming Fable i wont say it)

oozae · Post by **oozae** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:20 pm

Moltovir are you a vampire?

moltovir · Post by **moltovir** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:54 am

I do happen to be one, yes. Although it's not uncommon in Belgium, the people across the ocean still consider it a strange thing. Its commonly accepted that I occasionly drink a young virgins blood, however. And with Belgiums climate, you never have to worry about sunlight.

Wrath-Of-Egg · Post by **Wrath-Of-Egg** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:01 am

[QUOTE=moltovir]I do happen to be one, yes. Although it's not uncommon in Belgium, the people across the ocean still consider it a strange thing. Its commonly accepted that I occasionly drink a young virgins blood, however. And with Belgiums climate, you never have to worry about sunlight.[/QUOTE]

Even that i hate this three letter word.. or something like that... i cant resist th eurge to write it.. so here it comes..

LOL