The Ravanger (Sith Star Destroyer Class)

DarthFletcher · Post by **DarthFletcher** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:59 pm

This must have been mentioned and I cannot see where, so here goes.

If KotoR 1+2 are set years before the events of the movies and in Episode 2 you saw the initial design of the Star Destroyer how does Darth Nimthius in KotoR 2 have a perfect copy of a class of war ship that will not appear in known space of the Star Wars Galaxy until late Episode 3 and at the start of Episode 4!

Its a big question mark and one thing that... since the designer are trying to keep with the timeline. I can understand that some of the clothing would be different and I agree that the council of the time would not have held any of the members of the 12 man seated in Episode 1.

But having a proper Star Destroyer Class Vessel is a big jump... if this was intentional then the technology of hundreds of years was far more superior to the ones used by the clones?? that cannot be since the technology improved vastly.

Other than this find the game as been running things unique and the cloesest thing to resemble anything of the films which are later dated are the Jedi and Sith Robes and Sabres.

Rice~Boi · Post by **Rice~Boi** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:57 pm

Well all i can say is star wars 1-3 are garbage. Even though #3 hasn't come out yet, it's still garbage. Just the computer animation and that stupid thing with the "me so stupid" ruined the movies. Also the fact of the kid who can't act also ruined the movies. Well the 4-6 movies i really liked because all of the vehicles seemed like they could be man made. They looked like it could actually be made, but #1 ruined it in the first seen where their ship was all shiny and stupid.

Also "the ravager" might have just been an older/badder version of the new ships. Stupid 1-3 movies....

Darth Zenemij · Post by **Darth Zenemij** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:05 pm

Star wars takes place in a whole diffrent galexy and if the idiot (cannot remember his name)wanted to have a sith star vessle simmilar to that then he can.If he wanted to have a <snipped> with visass (how ever you spell her damn name) and Darth Sion then he can Do not underestimate the power of the sith.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:00 am

@Rice~Boi:
Instead of ranting on about the movies, try and answer the question the original poster has posted if you wish to post in this thread.

@Darth Zenemij:
The same goes for you as well. Why post if you have no interest in trying to discuss the original post. Also - avoid using explicit sexual references.

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King · Post by **King** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:40 am

[QUOTE=Rice~Boi]Well all i can say is star wars 1-3 are garbage. Even though #3 hasn't come out yet, it's still garbage. Just the computer animation and that stupid thing with the "me so stupid" ruined the movies. Also the fact of the kid who can't act also ruined the movies. Well the 4-6 movies i really liked because all of the vehicles seemed like they could be man made. They looked like it could actually be made, but #1 ruined it in the first seen where their ship was all shiny and stupid.

Also "the ravager" might have just been an older/badder version of the new ships. Stupid 1-3 movies....[/QUOTE]

Rice~Boi, DarthFletcher was askin bout continuity problems not bout how the movies contrast in your weak mind.

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King · Post by **King** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:47 am

[QUOTE=DarthFletcher]This must have been mentioned and I cannot see where, so here goes.

If KotoR 1+2 are set years before the events of the movies and in Episode 2 you saw the initial design of the Star Destroyer how does Darth Nimthius in KotoR 2 have a perfect copy of a class of war ship that will not appear in known space of the Star Wars Galaxy until late Episode 3 and at the start of Episode 4!

Its a big question mark and one thing that... since the designer are trying to keep with the timeline. I can understand that some of the clothing would be different and I agree that the council of the time would not have held any of the members of the 12 man seated in Episode 1.

But having a proper Star Destroyer Class Vessel is a big jump... if this was intentional then the technology of hundreds of years was far more superior to the ones used by the clones?? that cannot be since the technology improved vastly.

Other than this find the game as been running things unique and the cloesest thing to resemble anything of the films which are later dated are the Jedi and Sith Robes and Sabres.[/QUOTE]

When I first saw that clip of the Ravager, I asked myself that question too. KOTOR2 takes place 5 years after KOTOR1, and both are approximately 4,000 years before Episode 4: A New Hope. So it is highly unlikely anything will look like the familiar triangular shape of the Republic Assault Ships/Imperial Star Destroyers.

The only explanation for this is that the designers of KOTOR2 were wanting to have a Sith starship that looked menacing but they just plainly ran out of ideas.

Macleod1701 · Post by **Macleod1701** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:53 am

It was kind of mentioned earlier in a very badly worded way by someone else so I shall try to evolve it. Maybe Palpatine looked back through history to find a menacing Sith vessel, used the general design as the Ravager for his own ships and taa daa.......that may be the answer.

King · Post by **King** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:03 am

[QUOTE=Macleod1701]It was kind of mentioned earlier in a very badly worded way by someone else so I shall try to evolve it. Maybe Palpatine looked back through history to find a menacing Sith vessel, used the general design as the Ravager for his own ships and taa daa.......that may be the answer.[/QUOTE]

That's a good point. Thing is during Palpatine's era, those Republic Assault Ships/Imperial Star Destroyers were manufactured by KDY (Kuat Drive Yards), and it revolved around the look of the Jedi Starfighter. Triangular shapes.
Either way, anything goes and only Lucas himself can decide.

DarthFletcher · Post by **DarthFletcher** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:19 pm

KDY had the Empire order but there is no mention of the KDY contract to the Kamino cloner..since the film you see the troops boarding some kind of transport.

But surely if the KotoR 2 vessel was indeed looked back on for the design would they not have made the earlier star destroyer class the same as the later models and have some more illustrious ships made for the Empire.

unless I wrote to the makers of KotoR 2 I dont think we will ever know the reason, but for now the guy that said they ran out of Ideas is getting my vote.

Darth Coran · Post by **Darth Coran** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:33 pm

The History Of the Star Destroyer

The Ravager in theory is a star destroyer,but what if in fact the Star Destroyer was a more advanced ship with better weaponyry,armor,a better hyperdrive ect.and the layout/look of the Star Destroyer came from the ships like the Ravager.

Nephthys Shadow · Post by **Nephthys Shadow** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:55 pm

I personaly think that ship is KOTOR II is MUCH smaller... And the empier((Can't spell)) guy looks back and is like "Oooo.. evil.. MAKE IT BIGGER" maybe.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:57 am

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Ryngard · Post by **Ryngard** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:21 am

It looks similar (very similar) but it isn't an Imperial-class Star Destroyer. Lots of technical differences, some visual differences, etc. It is possible that Palpatine influenced the design based on the ancient Sith ship from the game. It could be a coincidence. It could be the game designers wanting something to be similar because they like the Imp Star Destroyers. Lots of possibilities.

Just go, "That's similar, neat." and move on.