Messed-up story (Spoilers)

Ironclad · Post by **Ironclad** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:03 pm

Hello there people of GameBanshee. My name is Ironclad, and I have been
playing KotOR II for about a month and I seem to be confused. I do not
understand why the Council cast out the main character, why
Kreia is Sith, gets exiled, and becomes Sith again, and what is Darth
Nihilus' role in the game. I have played the game from start to end
twice and am still lost. I hope you guys can help me understand the
story a lot better. Please reply soon!

Ironclad

CodyCarson · Post by **CodyCarson** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:16 pm

Spoiler.

Ok, They casted you out for going to war with revan. But you where the only one to come for punishment.

Keira was is and always will be a sith. The jedi master on Telos was the cause of the bombing on Kartar, visar marr's planet. She was the Dark lord of betrail or something, That why when you teach handmaiden to be a jedi, Keira says betrail.

Keira used a power, which I think sound be in KOTOR III where you don't show signs of the darkside. Like you skin doesn't wrinkle all up and stuff. A big hint is when you are aabout to finish Sion off in the Sith Academy she stops you. The only reason she stays with you is so she can find out why you went back to the council.

That dude with the mask is who you are talking about, you will not understand until you have a relationship with Visar. But as for his role, he is one of the sith lords.

Sion= Lord of wills {OR something like that because it is only bu sure will that hois body stays together.}
Keira/Darth traya = Lord of betrail. {She betrays you. But when atris was that she betraied the council}
Dude with the mask = Lord of Nothing. {Everything he touches dies.}

Hope that helps.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:56 pm

@Ironclad

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I've added the Spoiler tag for you this time, but please remember it in the future.

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Mellypie · Post by **Mellypie** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:12 am

Just to clarify Darth Sion is the Lord of Pain, Darth Nihilus is the Lord of Hunger, and Kriea is the Lord of Betrayal. So I've heard anyway.

CodyCarson · Post by **CodyCarson** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:14 am

Yeah. Thats it. But Atrias was the Lord of Betrayal. But she gave it up after watching her friends and fellow jedi die.

Ironclad · Post by **Ironclad** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:44 pm

Umm...spoilers, what are thoses?

Also, thanks for the info guys! But there are a few more things I would like to get clarified:

I realize that the main character is cast out because he went to war, but what is with 'the end of the Force' busines and making connections through the Force?

CodyCarson · Post by **CodyCarson** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:48 pm

Spoilers are things that if someone hasn't playede the game, it could spoil it from them. Like saying something in the game.

THe whole force thing was all about you. The jedi didn't cut you off from the force, you did. Thats the only way you could survive. The jedi new you would do this so they casted you out, hoping that you would cut your self off from the force completely. Throw the game, you gain strength from the people who fall before you, and the people who follow you. This scared the jedi masters because you where a born leader. And if you turned to the darkside, your friends would follow.

Ironclad · Post by **Ironclad** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:46 pm

That make some sense. But what about tyhe end of the force and all the deaths that lie within the main character from the Mandalorian Wars? Is it that since he makes connections (Force Bonds) with others through the Force like with Kriea and if something happens to them (i.e. death) then he would die that he cut himself off the Force? I'm starting to understand, but theres just a few spots just left?

P.S I've heard you get to meet with Carth Onasi (or someone from the first KotOR), is that true?

CodyCarson · Post by **CodyCarson** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:19 pm

to meat with carth you have to do down a certain path. WHich i'm not going to tell you.

Your friends give you strength. But when you fight Keira at teh end of the game,She tells you that you will be able ot resist death if Either of you die. Because of you strength. Something like that.

Moon Maiden · Post by **Moon Maiden** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:35 pm

please tell me!

I had a major crush on Carth in the first game, and I even went so far in my first time through, to play the entire game dark side, then change my mind so I didn't have to kill Carth in the end. He was a real sweetie, and his voice sounds like Bill Pullman (who I also have a crush on)...hehehe. Please tell me how I can meet up with Carth, because I would love to talk to him again. (I KNOW I'M SAD, you don't have to keep shouting at me...lol)
Moon Maiden

Darth Moudi · Post by **Darth Moudi** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:25 pm

Meet Carth

To meet Carht Onasi all u have to do is defeat Darht Nihilus and plant the bombs on the Ravenger and escape then it will go to a cutscene and u will be bak on Telos and u will get to talk to him. Then Bastila shows up after u leave the conversation.

Th3 DoC · Post by **Th3 DoC** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:09 pm

Not true moudi. It depends completely on which path you take throughout the game. I played it through as the lightside, and never saw Carth at all... I mean PERIOD. I played it through as the dark side, and boom Carth was there... its kinda weird.

And Cody, I have to correct you a bit : Its Kreia and Visas. Not Keira and Visar. Now, I have a question of my own... how in the frell do you get the handmaiden to join you? She just asks me about the force, and then thanks me. Weird. I know how to make Atton into a Jedi however

Somni · Post by **Somni** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:30 pm

codycarson kreia was sith then jedi then neither because she wants
the sith empire to be destroyed and the jedi teachings that are corrupt
and the jedi had too much pride in themselves. Her beliefs are her own not
the sith or jedi belief so she did not become sith again.

Darth Moudi · Post by **Darth Moudi** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:20 pm

I dunno i met Carth and Bastila on the lightside. Every so often when you level up ask handmaiden to teach you some moves. About 3 times I think. Plus gain some more influece by talking with her. Ask Kreia about her mother and talk to hamdmaiden about it. Soon enough into that conversation she'll ask to be trained. Shes a Jedi Guardian.

Xanth · Post by **Xanth** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:51 pm

Meeting Carth has nothing to do with your character being dark side or light side. It has everything to do with Revan being dark side or light side. If you say Revan saved the Republic, then you get Carth. If you say he fell to the dark side again, then you don't get Carth. I think Bastilla only shows up with Carth if Revan was both good and male. I'm not sure on that last part however.

Darth Moudi · Post by **Darth Moudi** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:51 pm

Oooooooooh. That would explain why I see him everytime. I always say he went good and hes a male.