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ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:32 pm

I've searched all over the internet but I've not found any answers to the following questions:
Firstly, are you guys sure all HK-47 gives you is wis +1 and Con +1. Because that seems a tad wek, and the influence guide at gamefaqs says that "your companions can help you raise your stats, ESPECIALLY HK-47."
Why is it, ESPECIALLY?
Also, how much inteligence do I need to get T3 to upgrade me, and how much skill do I need to ugrade him. In fact can someone tell me who in my company I can upgrade and what stats I need in order to upgrade them. I think I needed 16 inteligence to upgrade T3 at one point (oh yeah, is that requirement met if your inteligence is only 14 naturaly but you boost it with equipment, or does it have to be 16 naturally).

I have a couple of other questions, if anyone can, please answer them:
1) I believe Kreia can upgrade my force pool? How many times, and by how much.
2) I heard that the charisma modifier on the PC adds a bonus to your ally's attack. I think it was 2*your charisma modifier. if that's true, does it work from the companions point of view as well? So, if I increase Atton's charisma will I get an attack bonus = to twice the charisma modifier of Atton?

Thank you.

Edit - one more questions if no one minds:
3) What is the highest level your companions can achieve?

PS: I posted this on another thread but I realize that no-one will answer me if I post in the wrong thread, cause people enter to answer that question and probuably don't know the answers to mine. Anyway. sorry
If anyone doesn't understand my questions ask me what they mean, cause I really want answers.

Ergophobia · Post by **Ergophobia** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:34 am

I believe a grand total of 20 comp and 20 repair should be enough to upgrade T3. I don't know if that's intelligence-related or not.

Your companions can also reach lvl 50, just like you.

I don't know about your other questions though. Never got much influence with HK and neither with Kreia.

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:47 am

Thanks. And what do i need for T3 to upgrade me?

EDIITTTT------
I got many answers from dear Jeremiahhh:

"I am sure about the +1 wis and +1 con for Hk47 as I checked the character sheet after the upgrades. What I cannot recall is whether it is will or reflex save that is boosted and how many force points are gained. Can't recall but I got that through to completion. I think especially is used for HK since HK can be gotten by either Light side or Dark side characters while Hanharr can only be gained by being VERY DARK. Of the companions that can easily be gotten, HK is the only one that gives two stat upgrades.

You don't need 16 intelligence to fully repair T3. 16 intelligence does open up the conversation to activate a special hologram in his memories that can net xp and gain/loss influence with T3. I am pretty sure you don't need more than 13 total effective computer ranks and 20 repair effective skills for T3.

Honestly, I lose track of how many extra force points you gain from Kreia but it is considerable and worth your time to pursue the conversation threads with her as they also can net you xp.

Charisma does add to companions to hit but I can't figure out how much the bonus actually is. Whenever I look at the feedback window, it seems to flipflop quite a bit LOL.

It won't help the PC's chance to hit when a companions charisma is increased. However, in that special Dxun mission where the PC is not leading, the NPC leader's charisma does add bonus to hit for the other NPCs so Visas is not a bad choice to be leader.

Your companions maximum level is the same as the PCs which is 50. They just take a lot longer to get there."

Thanks a lot, I can't thank you enough.

I can now start my game, and I am planning to go dark conselor, until I get Hanharr then switch to the light side for the rest of the game. Should lead to some interesting conversation. But is it posssible?

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:13 am

1) Which characters can learn which stances and what has to happen for them to do so? I'm refering to companions as well.

Thnks

edit ----
"I am pretty sure you don't need more than 13 total effective computer ranks and 20 repair effective skills for T3."
What does "effective" mean?
Does it mean that only your natural skills count, and that no upgrades from equipment is added?

Ergophobia · Post by **Ergophobia** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:37 am

No, effective means grand total. I'm pretty sure you need at least 16 computer use though, since the final upgrade relies on computer skill, and I'm unable to do that at 12, plus 3 int bonus.

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:00 am

Aha, thnx

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:27 am

What does the 'Mental D-Package' implant do?

jeremiah · Post by **jeremiah** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:39 am

+3 to wisdom, charisma and intelligence while equipped. Too bad the gamebanshee equipment guide section has a broken link for its description

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ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:42 pm

Yeah I know, seeing as its the best implant for conselors, and I'm a conselor (sorry, I'm not a conselor, my guy is a consular). What a "COINCIDENCE".

Also, as if I haven't got enough questions un-answered:

1 (crystal spoiler) Does "your crystal" change according to your alignment?
2 is it a good idea to go dark side to get Hanharr, and the light to get my prestige, and a +6 to wis? Will I be able to?
3 If I go dark side and put on "Ludo Kresh's Armband", and then go lightside, will it drop off of my left arm?

Darth Lightside · Post by **Darth Lightside** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:58 pm

it won't drop off right away. When you do anything to get a load screen (change areas for examples) it will fall off

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:15 pm

Hmm, that makes me sad.

Grishnakh · Post by **Grishnakh** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:40 pm

Are you thinking you get +6 WIS for Consular/Master combo? Because you don't. At least I didn't. I went through the game as a LS Consular/Master and my LS Mastery bonus stayed +3 WIS both as a Consular and as a Master. My guess is that the Mastery bonus is determined by the current career class, not the history of previous career classes.

jeremiah · Post by **jeremiah** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:44 pm

[QUOTE=Grishnakh]Are you thinking you get +6 WIS for Consular/Master combo? Because you don't. At least I didn't. I went through the game as a LS Consular/Master and my LS Mastery bonus stayed +3 WIS both as a Consular and as a Master. My guess is that the Mastery bonus is determined by the current career class, not the history of previous career classes.[/QUOTE]

You only see the mastery bonus of the prestige class in the character record window. But the mastery bonus from the vanilla jedi class is active as long as you have mastery. Best way for you to see it would be when you level up. Check your stats and you will notice the difference. The base stats are always shown on the level up screen (not including bonuses from items AND MASTERY). so a LS Consular/Master does have +6 total bonus to wisdom. Surprised you never noticed.

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:35 am

Yes.

About T3.
If I just invest in one computer point(although it shall be two points since I'm a consular, and its a cross-class skill) shall I be able to upgrade T3 fully by just using items to buff up my computer use?
Also, (peragus spoiler):
when controling T3 in the fuel depot, I accidentally left the game at easy from the prologue, I managed to place a mine on the door wich is usually opened by blowing up the utility droid inside, through the terminal. Anyway, i did it and got some sweet items from the two containers which would have been blown up wit the droid except that I didn't have to blow him up. So I was wondering. When changing the dificulty of the game, does it just change the dificulty of your opponents or does it also change the DC of locks and stuff. Also does it affect the type of equipment your character is likely to find.
Plus, thanks for all your answers.

Ergophobia · Post by **Ergophobia** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:50 am

I think the only thing difficulty changes is how hard your enemies are, since you can change it at any point.

It could be possible, upgrading T3 with just one point, but it would require a load of expensive items. (skills D-package, etc.)

jeremiah · Post by **jeremiah** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:38 pm

I prefer not to level up T3 until I fully repair with computer skills needed ( i left mine at 12 and +2 int modifier +2/3 from Czerka or other utility belts). As a precaution even had Kreia throw up a valor before going inside the hawk to initiate conversation. This way I can level him up to 20 intelligence at level 4 and T3 can keep ALL skills maxed to create all the stuff needed other than those requiring Stealth and Treat Injury. Thing is if you have a Guardian character even with 14 intelligence you are probably better off not upgrading T3 unless you want to wait a long time

if you leave the skill cross classed. +1 wisdom probably isn't too much help for a Guardian.

Consulars start out with Repair as class skill so it won't be too hard for them to reach the necessary skill ranks in that. Computer can wait if you want to switch to assasin/watchman by saving skill points while consular and then repair him fully. However, it is the Computer upgrades that improves T3's intelligence score so it is worthwhile to choose that as a class skill feat for consulars going Jedi Master/Sith Lord or Weaponmaster/Marauder. The +1 wisdom is helpful for them.

Increasing difficulty does increase the DC of locks and mine recovery. Which is why sometimes when playing the Difficult mode, I lower the settings to Easy after dispatching all enemies in the area to recover mines and open locks to get more xp even if the skill ranks isn't enough for them at Difficult mode. The damage from enemies also increases but I am not sure what percentage. I can't say for certain it affects equipment but combat is so easy anyway that Difficult mode is the only default setting I prefer.

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:43 am

Yeah, that's true, that's basically what I do.
About computer skill. I have left it as a cross class skil, and have invested two skill points to get a +1 on it (Unfortunately my inteligence is -1, so it ends up as 0 anyway, but atleast I can use it!). I don't want to waste feats if I can upgrade T3 fully by using items.
Also, I presume there is no time limit by which you have to upgrade him.

Ergophobia · Post by **Ergophobia** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:26 am

No, though I would do it before finishing Nar Shaddaa, since you shouldn't level him up before upgrading him, and fighting a lvl3 T3 through the HK droids will be one heck of a problem.

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:48 am

Wait, Wait. Hold on!
Why shouldn't I level T3 before upgrading him?

jeremiah · Post by **jeremiah** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:23 pm

I would upgrade T3 as long as you finish the computer upgrades first to fully get his intelligence score high. The rest of the upgrades can be appreciated retroactively like constitution and dexterity. But the only real benefit of intelligence can be felt by getting a lot of skill points.

Usually it is not hard to get enough influence and computer ranks before leaving Telos or even if Nar Shaada is first, to upgrade his intelligence before the HK encounter.