True Sith?

tj_92 · Post by **tj_92** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:11 am

Who are the true sith are they like who Revan was or something the enemy of the Jedi cause the acient sith died out ages ago or something so are the antcient sith and true sith the same?

Noober · Post by **Noober** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:22 am

The true sith, as explained by Kriea, is not something tangible, but rather a belief/concept.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:10 am

Well - originally they were a race of physical beings in close connection with the dark side of the force according to what I know from the games and what I've looked up.
Although I am by far no SW expert so could easily be mistaken.

MightyIron · Post by **MightyIron** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:41 am

[QUOTE=Xandax]Well - originally they were a race of physical beings in close connection with the dark side of the force according to what I know from the games and what I've looked up.
Although I am by far no SW expert so could easily be mistaken.[/QUOTE]

I dont think you are mistaken, the ancient sith were a race which mastered the use of the dark side of the force and the sith in the KOTOR era are followers of their belifs.
The ancient sith no longer exist in the known galaxy and where beleived to have died out alltogether but obviously Revan knowns different and has gone to find them.

Admo · Post by **Admo** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:02 pm

Well I think they are still extinct, by "true Sith" I don't think they mean the actual race of Sith, just not some fallen Jedi pretenders who follow that belief system but aren't really up to it in the long run!

Mace Windu Jr. · Post by **Mace Windu Jr.** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:21 pm

mentioned in kotOR 1

as i thought i saw in 1 it states " the true Sith were a natural race of beings, Unlike the Sith today which follow it as a belief". Now i could be wrong but i think i saw that in one of the loading scenes

cim · Post by **cim** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:48 am

Mace, you are right.

Nar · Post by **Nar** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:05 am

Maybe (just maybe) the race of sith was not truly extinct. Korriban and Malachor V were supposed to be far from the heart of true sith empire(as Kreia said) - maybe only sith from the Republic are gone...

tj_92 · Post by **tj_92** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:14 am

were like darth Maul and Vader true sith do you think i think the true sith haven' made an appearence at all cept maybe in those 100s of books they've made i haven't read them but if anyone has

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:28 am

Well, in the animation of the Clone Wars, the second series, I think,
there is an assassin who claims to be sith (true sith), she is recruted by Dooku and anakin ends up killing her
Soooo, I don't know, anyone have confirmation weather she was a REAL Sith?

MightyIron · Post by **MightyIron** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:38 am

Dont know about the clone wars cartoon cos ive never seen it, but there has never been a true sith in a movie vader and maul were not true sith.

Ripe · Post by **Ripe** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:20 pm

OK here is the story of Sith:

Thousands of years before the Empire a renegade group of Jedi chalenged the Masters of the Order for the freedom to explore the dark side. When they were refused, defeted and finaly forced to exile they crossed the galaxy to find a place where they could live and learn as they choose without interference from the Order. Finaly they reached a planet inhabited by a barely civilized people that called themselves Sith. The primitive, superstitious Sith, seeinga a visitors from the stars, declared outcast gods and promptly devoted themselves to worshiping their new masters. For thousands of years that renegades rulled the Sith, expanding their empire to include nearby wolrds, without comming into contact with their ancient enemies. After conquering all the nearby world (and running out of foes to fignt) the Sith started fighting among themselves. When they were dangerously close to extinction through self-annihilation after the death of Sith Lord Marka Ragnos during the funeral on Korriban Republic scout-ship Starbreaker 12, piloted by Gav and Juri Daragon landed on Korriban which prompted the Sith to begin The Greah Hyperspace War (you get that from Kreia when you stand in front of Marka Ragnos' tomb) some 1000 years before events in KotoR and KotoR II. The war ended with the destruction of Sith empire, with only a few sith surviving after Naga Sadow's ship crashed on Yavin 4.

These are short version based on Dark Horse comics "The Golden Age of the Sith" and "The Fall of the Sith Empire"

Mace Windu Jr. · Post by **Mace Windu Jr.** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:45 pm

that sounds right but i believe i saw or read that that two Republic ships collided with one another after scouting new hyperspace routes . they landed on the funeral provoking the "great Hyperspace war". i dunno if thats right but i believe i saw that somewhere...

Cowled Kensai · Post by **Cowled Kensai** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:48 pm

[QUOTE=Mace Windu Jr.]that sounds right but i believe i saw or read that that two Republic ships collided with one another after scouting new hyperspace routes . they landed on the funeral provoking the "great Hyperspace war". i dunno if thats right but i believe i saw that somewhere...[/QUOTE]
Yep. The Great Hyper Space Wars when the Republic and Sith began their first battles. Unfortuanatly Naga Shadow and that other lord I forgot his name started fighting allowing the Republic to defeat them. If I am wrong i will go check my Star Wars RPG books, thank you d20 syestem.

d3r3k · Post by **d3r3k** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:06 pm

naga sadow and ludo kreesh fought for power in the vacuum left by marka ragnos' death.

Darth Zenemij · Post by **Darth Zenemij** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:33 pm

Go to google and type in Hiostory of the sith and click on the first one that says History of the sith it has from the true aith all the way to like luke and saving blah blah blah.But yeah as far as I lnow,it has all the history of the sith as to present star wars.,I found it in a nother thread simmilar to this one.

tj_92 · Post by **tj_92** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:03 pm

thanks helped me figure out evreything well i didnt figure it out but it helped me understand but if so Revan was a Sith not a true Sith but he followed their beliefs why do they say he went to fight them?

Darth Zenemij · Post by **Darth Zenemij** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:26 pm

...I'm not sure on that.I'll read it later and try to figure it out.

ajdaha · Post by **ajdaha** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:31 pm

Fight them. Don't you mean FIND them?

Mace Windu Jr. · Post by **Mace Windu Jr.** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:50 pm

revan

i believe he went to cancel the true threat becasue lucasfilm declared that lightside ending in 1 was historically the right one and a year after saving the day with malak and blah blah blah he left republic to go and destroy the threat he i guess found or thought he found when he was dark lord of the Sith