Malachor V

tj_92 · Post by **tj_92** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:06 pm

What actually happened with the exile there? did he just slaughter everyone or did he do sometihng? (which creates the echo in the force)

Darth Zenemij · Post by **Darth Zenemij** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:38 pm

I've been wondering that same exact thing my self.I am not sure but I think that if you went to become a jedi you go to help revan fight the sith,And as for a dark sider,I think that Revan tries to find you to aid him/her against who ever or what ever.Or revan would want to kill you either way.

Ripe · Post by **Ripe** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:38 am

He ordered the activation of Mass Shadow Generator which killed everyone on planet and even kiled people on starships in orbit around planet to some distance. I guess it the same "disturbance" in the force Obi-Wan Kenobi felt when Alderaan was destroyed by Death Star.

Dead! · Post by **Dead!** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:14 pm

What exactly did the Shadow Generator do? Or how did the exile know how to construct it in the mandalorian wars?
Didnt explain that very well, but i cant think how to put the quesition i am asking

qt 3.14159 · Post by **qt 3.14159** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:44 pm

It would seem that the mass shadow generator increased gravity and crushed those on the planet and caused ships in orbit to crash.

Star Wars never tells us "how" anything works, so you won't get any pseudoscience about how it might go. That's what Star Trek is for.

The exile did not construct it. Bao-Dur did. The exile gave the command for him to activate it. This is why they are both so guilt ridden about the mandalorian wars.

One thing I don't get... in my play through, the exile doesn't really seem to remember Bao-Dur at first.... it seems to me if someone built a weapon like that. And you gave that person the order to activate and subsequently killed thousands(?) of people... you might actually remember that person.

tj_92 · Post by **tj_92** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:08 pm

ye init like 'hmmmm i dont think i remember you'
'really, im the guy who helped you kill basically everyone on the planet? easy mistake dont worry maybe i got the wrong guy'

Dead! · Post by **Dead!** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:43 pm

lol, Good point, but like you said, not everything has to have a reason in Star Wars, Star Trek is much more critical in points like that, there are quite a few things that don't make sense in KOTOR 1 and 2, that is one of them. i guess it could be so that you (as real you in front of TV) can ask the questions to find out who he is. But then that can be countered by replying "Yeah I do, how could I forget the man who helped me destroy a planet and destroy thousands" but that isnt very KOTOR like, there is only 1 other instance I can think of where the answer to something you want to know is something you say.

Mace Windu Jr. · Post by **Mace Windu Jr.** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:37 pm

bao dur

i believe he created it didnt he... i mean he states he has to like repay for something but then he activates it again.. i didnt get that very much

MightyIron · Post by **MightyIron** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:31 pm

And the death of everyone on the planet at once is what caused the exile to loose his connection to the force. i think it is said that if he hadnt cut himself off he would have died.

Ripe · Post by **Ripe** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:15 am

I'm not sure, but I think that Bao-Dur said that Mass Shadow Generator was built by Iridonians (including him) so it maybe you don't remember him because all Iridonians look alike to you.
As for what is a Mass Shadow Generator we had a thread about that recently - check it here.

the torturedOne · Post by **the torturedOne** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:33 am

the impression I got from playing through the game as LS male and female and DS male and female is that, as everyone has said, the mass shadow generator was this sort of doomsday weapon that, when activated, crushed everything into itself. apparently, there were thousands of soldiers, including probably hundreds of Jedi as well, and their simultaneous death scream would have been intense. Alderaan's death caused Obi wan to brace, and that was with many lightyears distance between them (not to mention Alderaan being a relatively sparsely populated world with a limited number of force sensitives.)

To the exile, it probably felt like a flashbang going off in his/her face, and at that moment faced the choice to cling to the force and die or sever all ties completely and live. The exile chose life, and in doing so became the first person to ever voluntarily disconnect themself with the force. Not merely hide from it, but completely get rid of it. This is why Kreia became so intensely attached to the exile: s/he is living proof that a being could survive completely cut off from the force.

There is more to it, but I think this is the most pertinent information.

tj_92 · Post by **tj_92** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:10 am

ye that makes sense i think your right i see what you mean and i think i know what the mass shadow genarator is they said something about the gravity on Malachor V i think it turns on the gravity or something and it sucks everything into ir or something just an opinion again and since the sith academey survived at the heart of malachor i think thats where he was when he turned it on and by the way does he die there at the end because every one says he died there and still is dieing there or something? i think he may to heal the wound in the force he made or something but then again kreai kept saying stuff like you must follow revans path?