Questions about Bard and resistances

Darkwind · Post by **Darkwind** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:12 am

I was wondering if Bard songs affect on invisible enemies? Because its about hearing not seeing

and can silenced bard play songs? Those resistance things (10/+3 or something like that, for example) keep bugging me... what do they mean? I mean what does those numbers stand for?

Aldon · Post by **Aldon** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:06 am

I'm not sure about the invisible enemy question.

Silenced bards cannot play songs.

A resistance of 10/+3 means on each hit 10 damage is resisted unless the enemy is using a +3 or better weapon. No damage is resisted when a +3 or better weapon is used.

Darkwind · Post by **Darkwind** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:18 am

Thankful, but still confused

Okay.. Thanks Aldon

That helps a lot. I think that resistances in this game are weak, if I understood this correctly.. Storm shell gives you like 15/- resistance vs elements.. and Aasimar and Tiefling get 5/- racial bonuses.. so low resistances make no difference?

Aramant · Post by **Aramant** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:55 am

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but the elemental resistances and damage reduction aren't the same thing.

Damage reduction, the 10/+3 example, works on non-magical, physical damage only. So if you have damage reduction of 10/+3, a fireball will still do full damage.

Elemental resistances, such as those from the spells, or the aasimar and tiefling racial attributes, are particular to a given element. If you have Electrical resistance of 10, you ignore the first ten points of electrical damage from an attack. But once again, a fireball will do full damage.

Darkwind · Post by **Darkwind** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:12 am

Thanks Aramant.. I´ve been little confused with these things since have found no in-game descriptions of them. But all that makes sense now

Maybe I should play more to discover things on my own..

Aramant · Post by **Aramant** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:02 pm

[QUOTE=Darkwind]I´ve been little confused with these things since have found no in-game descriptions of them.[/QUOTE]

That's what the manual's for.

Raumoheru · Post by **Raumoheru** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:58 pm

and if you have a 5/- that means that it cannot be overcome

a barbarian has a damage resistence of 1/- every so or so levels and no matter how highly enchanted the sword is you will not bypass it

Aldon · Post by **Aldon** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:42 am

I've found damage resistance to be very powerful. Most weapons are 1d8 and that makes a 5 or 10 resistance absorb about 1/3 to 1/2 the damage of most hits. This can really add up in a fight.

The Boots of the North on my main tank makes the ice temple very easy. He absorbs most of their damage. A tiefling tank (5 fire resistance) can easily take out the last test at the monk monestary.

Resistances are not an all powerful advantage, but it does add up.

Darkwind · Post by **Darkwind** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:11 am

Thanks for your answers

And about the manual.. I don´t have it, so...
But anyway that has been huge help for me, when I´ve micromanaged my characters. Oh... and one more question

The Chain Of Drakkas, in its description is said that it requires no armor proficiency, so can my Ranger/Rogue/Wizard, the ranger part that is... use that armor without it affecting his dual-wielding feats?

Erenor · Post by **Erenor** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:13 am

[QUOTE=Darkwind]The Chain Of Drakkas, in its description is said that it requires no armor proficiency, so can my Ranger/Rogue/Wizard, the ranger part that is... use that armor without it affecting his dual-wielding feats?[/QUOTE]

The Chain of Drakkas is more meant to allow spellcasters and theives move and act freely while wearing +7 AC armor. Unfortunately, the Chain of Drakkas is considered medium armor and your ranger's ambidexterity and dual-weilding feats will not work with medium armor equiped. It sucks, but it's a bug in the game unless a patch included fixing it.

Darkwind · Post by **Darkwind** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:50 am

Man... that really sucks. So there is a patch for it then? I was hoping that Chain Of Drakkas would work.... The only things i needed from ranger was those two free feats. otherwise that armor would have been perfect for my character as I´m not interested of wasting any points to Armored arcana... But hey... it was too good to be true then.

But if theres a patch, maybe I´ll look for it somewhere. Thnx Erenor

lompo · Post by **lompo** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:02 am

Unfortunatly there is no fix for that in any patch, maybe in a future mod can be fixed.

Darkwind · Post by **Darkwind** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:21 am

Okay... so Armored Arcana it is then or maybe there are some decent robes to wear. So it is Chain Of Drakkas for my Bard/Druid and some crappy robe for my Ranger/Rogue/Wizard

Aramant · Post by **Aramant** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:45 am

Armored arcana for your ranger? Armored arcana only reduces the armor check penalty for arcane spells, which rangers don't cast.

Darkwind · Post by **Darkwind** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:16 am

No no...He´s a multiclassed char.... he has only one or two levels of ranger and rogue rest is wizard. He is both spellcaster and tank... thats why i need an armor for him

silverdragon72 · Post by **silverdragon72** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:48 am

.

...from a power-gaming point of view there is no need to take the ranger level(s) as you have to take 2 levels for the best MC-builds...

...better take the 1st & 2nd fighter level instead to gain these feats!

.

Darkwind · Post by **Darkwind** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:24 am

Yeah.. i know that... But I´m getting bored of Fighters and that powergaming thing. It is easy to make a powerful party for powergaming, but imho it´s not so fun as putting in some roleplaying elements too... But hey.. thanks anyway...

Somehow i´ve always hated fighters.. they are so boring... Although as mix-in classes they are peerless, especially for spellswords, but as I said....

Aramant · Post by **Aramant** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:42 am

In games like the Icewind Dales and Baldur's Gates, I tend to lump paladins, rangers, and fighters in as fairly comparable. I go back to 2nd Edition D&D where they're all referred to as a group as Warrior classes. As such, my parties tend to have three Warriors in them, but what specific class of Warrior tends the characters are tends to vary.