Bad plotline for Mcgee quest?
Bad plotline for Mcgee quest?
Bad plotline for Mcgee quest? SPOILERS
During the early quest to locate Carson the bounty hunter you will eventually find yourself at the Tattoo Parlor looking for one Mr McGee.
He is not at the Parlor, but Lo! The phone rings and it is Dr Gimble asking for Mr McGee.
You say that Mcgee isn't around and eventually wind up with a date at his Prosthetics Clinic.
At the clinic, you bash the daylights out of Gimble and rescue a fingerless Carson who says that he and Mcgee have been unwilling tissue donors to Gimble's mad fancies.
So if Gimble was holding Mcgee prisoner, why in the world would he call up the Tatoo parlor looking for Mcgee unless:
1) This was all an elaborate set up involving E, Lily, Arthur Kilpatrick, Carson, Mcgee and the diner lady, orchestrated by Gimble to get some vamp parts.
2) It was a bad plot line.
Applying Occam's Razor, I would go with the second explanation, but welcome suggestions from other forum dwellers as to why Gimble would call Mcgee.
During the early quest to locate Carson the bounty hunter you will eventually find yourself at the Tattoo Parlor looking for one Mr McGee.
He is not at the Parlor, but Lo! The phone rings and it is Dr Gimble asking for Mr McGee.
You say that Mcgee isn't around and eventually wind up with a date at his Prosthetics Clinic.
At the clinic, you bash the daylights out of Gimble and rescue a fingerless Carson who says that he and Mcgee have been unwilling tissue donors to Gimble's mad fancies.
So if Gimble was holding Mcgee prisoner, why in the world would he call up the Tatoo parlor looking for Mcgee unless:
1) This was all an elaborate set up involving E, Lily, Arthur Kilpatrick, Carson, Mcgee and the diner lady, orchestrated by Gimble to get some vamp parts.
2) It was a bad plot line.
Applying Occam's Razor, I would go with the second explanation, but welcome suggestions from other forum dwellers as to why Gimble would call Mcgee.
Quite simply it's a plot twist that wasn't real thoroughly thought out. The only possible answer is that Gimble had some way of knowing that you or another bounty hunter would show up at the Tatoo party. Since it seems unlikely Arthur would be in on the con, and its a large inference to think Gimble had Carson's apartment bugged, we'll either have to accept it as a small plot leap that wasn't clearly thought out, or assume that Gimbel had some odd neurosis that required him calling his victims former homes.
[QUOTE=Ticona]He lured McGee and Carson from the Tattoo shop. Why not try for other victims. Did you not fall for it? I did as he said to have photos made for cash. I walked into the devil and did not know it until I saw Carson. Well played I thought.[/QUOTE]
Really? I thought it was fairly obvious that he was connected to the disappearances. Otherwise, why would any vampire want to do "modeling" (if you went that question route, rather than asking about Carson directly), when you're trying to keep a low profile?
Anyway, his calling there seemed far fetched, but it didn't bother me too much. At least I could credit the call to some mental disorder or Gimble's hope of finding another specimen from that Tatoo parlor. I suppose its realistic to think other people might work there.... (though, that late at night...)
Really? I thought it was fairly obvious that he was connected to the disappearances. Otherwise, why would any vampire want to do "modeling" (if you went that question route, rather than asking about Carson directly), when you're trying to keep a low profile?
Anyway, his calling there seemed far fetched, but it didn't bother me too much. At least I could credit the call to some mental disorder or Gimble's hope of finding another specimen from that Tatoo parlor. I suppose its realistic to think other people might work there.... (though, that late at night...)
It could be a scripting error since there is no time of day or night passing. For all we know you do everything the same night lol... Gimble could very well have called looking for him and he showed up before you got there. Who knows... Kinda like say other Role Playing games where you and the enemy are both traveling to the same destination and some how you got to do this and that to get there yet someone the enemy just gets there? Makes any sense at all? Lily is only involved because she bailed out her boyfriend who then skipped town.
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I always put it down as Gimble covering himself. He may have thought that someone (employers, cops, friends etc.) would notice people going missing, and there is the possibility that they had told other people about their destination. Calling the place where you made contact with them to inquire about their whereabouts would be a way of throwing people off the scent a little: his victims might simply be put down as "missing" in a beach town, rather than "missing after an appointment with Gimble", which looks rather more suspicious.
[QUOTE=Confuzzled]Calling the place where you made contact with them to inquire about their whereabouts would be a way of throwing people off the scent a little: his victims might simply be put down as "missing" in a beach town, rather than "missing after an appointment with Gimble", which looks rather more suspicious.[/QUOTE]
and of course for game purposes he just so happens to call when your there... otherwise how would the mission continue?
and of course for game purposes he just so happens to call when your there... otherwise how would the mission continue?
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and of course for game purposes he just so happens to call when your there... otherwise how would the mission continue?
Well exactly. Serendipity has much to answer for. Like you just happening to be embraced, just happening to run into some thin bloods, just happening to...
Coincidences happen, and a game can use them if it wishes. Just not too often.
Alternatively Gimble keeps calling until someone answers (no point calling otherwise), the redial button on a speaker phone has almost as much to answer for as serendipity.
[QUOTE=Confuzzled]I always put it down as Gimble covering himself. He may have thought that someone (employers, cops, friends etc.) would notice people going missing, and there is the possibility that they had told other people about their destination. Calling the place where you made contact with them to inquire about their whereabouts would be a way of throwing people off the scent a little: his victims might simply be put down as "missing" in a beach town, rather than "missing after an appointment with Gimble", which looks rather more suspicious.[/QUOTE]
Right, but when you would be a pretty much unknown variable to the police, why bother calling your victim's place? I mean...come on....wouldn't that draw suspician to yourself when you otherwise wouldn't have had any? I guess, we could just consider him stupid. Likewise, if we were to buy into the notion that he was covering himself, why call so late at night when no one is likely to be there?
Anyway, these are all possibilities. Eventually we just have to make a leap of faith and just accept that Gimble must have had some warped reason for calling the estabishment.
Right, but when you would be a pretty much unknown variable to the police, why bother calling your victim's place? I mean...come on....wouldn't that draw suspician to yourself when you otherwise wouldn't have had any? I guess, we could just consider him stupid. Likewise, if we were to buy into the notion that he was covering himself, why call so late at night when no one is likely to be there?
Anyway, these are all possibilities. Eventually we just have to make a leap of faith and just accept that Gimble must have had some warped reason for calling the estabishment.
I agree it carried the plot forward and maybe Gimble was covering himself. If you look at the wall he advertised for the photos, so I assumed that was how he lured his victims to him (once I found out he was a nut job). As a player you had extra knowledge that Carson went missing from here. If they had made it where you could call the number once you read the wall, I would have done it, just for the cash that early in the game. Anyway, it was a cool part of the game and let you know early on that this game would be crazy.