helm's hold - desther

Bentz · Post by **Bentz** » Tue May 10, 2005 1:45 pm

funny thing happanes,
i'm trying to use the recall stone, and i get a message which
says: "the recall stone is unable to transport you from this area."
the tips i've seen speak of the use of the stone in that area,
so what's wrong?

thanks.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue May 10, 2005 10:59 pm

Can't remember if it is right for that area or not (although I think it is), but some areas do limit the usage of the Stone of Recall and prevent you from teleporting out.

Bentz · Post by **Bentz** » Wed May 11, 2005 12:16 am

i couldn't help myself from taking a look in the walkthrough and in the tips given in the forums. it seems that all of them suggesting the use of the recall stone.

in any case, i'm a sorecrer (lev 8), always playing with a greal as a familiar.
desther and his fellow friends are to many for me to handle. is it possible
to finish it alone or do i need to hire a companion before entering this floor?

thanks.

Rudar Dimble · Post by **Rudar Dimble** » Wed May 11, 2005 2:24 am

[QUOTE=Bentz]i couldn't help myself from taking a look in the walkthrough and in the tips given in the forums. it seems that all of them suggesting the use of the recall stone.

in any case, i'm a sorecrer (lev 8), always playing with a greal as a familiar.
desther and his fellow friends are to many for me to handle. is it possible
to finish it alone or do i need to hire a companion before entering this floor?

thanks.[/QUOTE]
I played through the whole game without using a henchman, so you should be able to handle it on your own.
About not being able to use the stone of recall...I really can't remember what the specific places were, where the use of the stone was prohibited. But if you've read in the walkthrough that it's possible, then it might be a bug(?). Have you downloaded the latest patch?

Mr.Waesel · Post by **Mr.Waesel** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:11 am

I can confirm that you indeed may not use the stone of recall in that area. The best thing to do (for me, a wizard, at least) was to lure desther to the dead-end hallway at the corner of the map and keep him occupied with a summon, my henchman and my familiar. Then run to the other end and rest.

Rudar Dimble · Post by **Rudar Dimble** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:45 am

Desther was really an easy battle IIRC. I can't remember my elven monk having any problems with him. But hey, my monk didn't even have any problem with someone later on in the game

Spoiler

I mean Klauth of course

koz-ivan · Post by **koz-ivan** » Thu May 12, 2005 5:44 am

[QUOTE=Rudar Dimble]Desther was really an easy battle IIRC. I can't remember my elven monk having any problems with him.[/QUOTE]

that's b/c you were a melee type, desther is a pain for mage types, infact it could be one of the hardest battles in the game given the number of opponents and lack of a rest area.

as a sorc your options in this battle are pretty limited, you will run out of spells before you run out of bad guys.

plan a: pretend to be a fighter and buff yourself up w/ spells that will last awhile kill as much stuff as you can w/ melee damage, save spells for area blasting and desther.

plan b: use charged items, maybe that kid downstairs sells some, or scrolls. - pull out all the stops as things will get easier once you deal w/ him and level up some more.

Jaypee · Post by **Jaypee** » Thu May 12, 2005 6:21 am

I played with druid and it was indeed the hardest battle in the whole game. I had try like ten times to go through with it. I had Linu as henchman.

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Thu May 12, 2005 2:15 pm

You didn't bring any Wands of Fire or Missile? They can reduce most of the enemies there to dust. As the others say, use buff spells if you got them, or if you don't,try to attract some enemies and kill them with whatever weapon you got at hands.

Bentz · Post by **Bentz** » Thu May 12, 2005 2:27 pm

buffing up sounds good.
i tried it once, used the tenser tranformation, and pretty much succeded in cleaning the place up before returning to sorc mode and than get killed again.
i'll try it again + many potions.

i'll report the progress later on.

Fexelea · Post by **Fexelea** » Sun May 15, 2005 1:26 am

I had kinda the same problem... the walkthrough tells you to use the Stone Of Recall, but you actually can`t and you can`t rest.
I had a fighter and still it was a hard fight until I figured out how to do it.

A little helpful trick is to bring the opponents to the door and close it behind them, so you can take on them one on one and get healed before you go for Deshter. Also remember to run as fast aas you can and get rid of the ritual creatures!

Space_Loner · Post by **Space_Loner** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:12 pm

Desther and his minions hardly move... so don't you just open the door, kill whoever comes, and thus the area is clear enough to rest at the far end? As good as recall stone (which worked, I'm pretty sure, in one of the earlier patches at least, sent you to the throne room)

Always how I did it.