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Sects, Clans, and Bloodlines

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I haven't seen much actual information on all the bloodlines here, so I did a little research, and came up with the following:

Sects:
Camarilla
Antitribu - not Camarilla: 1) Sabbat: Includes the True Black Hand 2) Anarchs

Clans:
Assamites: Assassins
Baali: Powerful, insular, hunted - generally masquerade as other clans
Brujah: Scholars with a hair-trigger temper
Setites: Probably the guy in the blood-bank - distinguishing characteristic is a true desire to corrupt
Gangrel: Feral wanderers - closest to nature
Malkavians: Insane
Nosferatu: Cursed to ugliness for their antedeluvian's vanity
Ravnos: Tricksters, thieves, and illusionists
Toreador: Artists and Beautiful People. Two sects: 'artistes' and 'poseurs'
Ventrue: The traditionalist businessmen of the vampire world
Laibon: Very rare
Lhiannan: Eradicated by hunters
Giovanni: Eradicated their parent line, the Cappadoccians, and the Lamia bloodline that protected them
Cappadocian: Thought to be extinct, may have reappeared
Lamia: Eradicated by Giovanni
Tremere: Magicians who made themselves vampires and diablerized the antedeluvian Saulot
Salubri: Clan founded by Saulot

Bloodlines:
Blood Brothers: Sabbat shock troops
Daughters of Cacophony: Probably spawned by the Toreador - their music can damage and inflict insanity
Gargoyles: Spawned by the Tremere
Nagaraja: Spawned by Euthanatos mages. Must consume flesh as well as blood - Pisha?
Samedi: Constantly rotting
True Brujah: Brujah that did not diablerize their progenitor - manipulate the fabric of time
Kiasyd: Spawned by Losombra - the Sherrif?
Losombra: A leadership clan of the Sabbat - control the stuff of Shadow
Old Clan Tzimisce: Clan Tzimisce that did not attack their Antedeluvian
Tzimisce: Moulders of flesh and bone, wielders of Vicissitude. A leadership clan of the Sabbat

Caitiff/Panders:
Clanless vampires. Caitiff are known as Panders in the Sabbat

Yes, I realise that there are more than 13. The explanation is that there were 13 Antedeluvians, and therefore 13 original bloodlines, but there have been spin-offs and eliminations since then.
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Info like this should be around here....at least I posted a host of it....

A few corrections:

Laibon and Lhiannan are no Clans but Bloodlines of the Gangrel.
Baali isn't a Clan either, but a demonic bloodline that originated in the 2nd City.
Lamia were a bloodline of the Cappadocians ( like the Giovanni before the destroyed most of their parent Clan, including the Antediluvian Founder who was diablerised by Augustus Giovanni ).
Salubri; destroyed save 7 members, 1 of those became the founder of the Salubri Antitribu who joined the Sabbat in the 70's.
Ravnos, despite losing their Anteliduvian in Week of Nightmares in 1999 and most of their numbers ( only about 5 percent of them are still around, maybe 100 kainites ), they are still considered a Clan.
It's Lasombra not Losombra....that's what I am !
Tzimisce are a Clan not a Bloodline.

Yep, Pisha is a Nagaraja. The Sheriff...Gangrel, maybe even Tzimisce. Definetly not Kiasyd, those are Scholars mostly and are no fighters.
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As I have read here, a lot of Antidelluvians are now dead or diablerized, or something.

So could you please tell me, which of them are still alive (sleeping in some sarcophagus perhaps? ^)) and what bloodline they belong to.

And I am just curious who is this Balthazar guy? (LaCroix mentions him in one of the endings)
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Wasn't Balthazar the sherif of chicago during the war bewteen the local garou population and the kindred?

Just a note on Kyasid: A dead give away, even if your Kyasid is (for some reason) a violent one, is that their skin turns pale blue when exposed to moonlight... Which as you can imagine for a vampire, is quite often! Now, as the sherif was a freaky sorta poop brown most of the time...
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[QUOTE=Lucita]Yep, Pisha is a Nagaraja. The Sheriff...Gangrel, maybe even Tzimisce. Definetly not Kiasyd, those are Scholars mostly and are no fighters.[/QUOTE]

I pegged the Sherrif as Kiasyd for a few reasons. First, Losombra control the stuff of Shadows, and the Sherrif has that shadow thing happening. As far as I know the Lasombra are the only ones with that characteristic, and presumably some of that would have rubbed off on the Kiasyd. Second, it was noted that the Lasombra were exceptionally tall but weak. If they spawned a bloodline, one would presume they were going for strength, which would explain the Sherrif's extraordinary height and bulk. Third, Jack says LaCriox picked up the Sherrif in Africa. He strikes me as a bit on the pale side for a Zulu warrior (the tallest and arguably fiercest tribe in Africa). In their native land, full-blood Zulu are very nearly black-skinned, and the Sherrif could pass for Caucasian easily.

Look at the pattern: Tremere spawn a bloodline. The Tremere are scholarly and weakly, so they spawn a bloodline that's not terribly bright but incredibly powerful. It's not unreasonable to assume that the Lasombra might try a similar route if they were looking for guardians.

The only part I'm vague about is powers. Aside from controlling Shadows, I didn't get a lot of other information about what kind of powers one would expect in a Lasombra or, by extension, a Kiasyd. Aside from blinking out and in, and turning into a giant bat (which, granted, could merely be a bizarre Warform), most of the rest of the Sherrif's powers do seem to be Gangrel. On the other hand, since the Lasombra belong to the Sabbat, I would expect that it would be hard to peg them down to a specific set of powers, what with the Diablerie and all.
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My best guess about the Sheriff is that he's one of the African bloodlines. There are some that combine Vicissitude (sp?) with Animalism. The Sheriff seemed to exhibit both of those powers. Moreover, Jack mentions that LaCroix picked him up in Africa. I highly doubt he's a Lasombra, as he doesn't strike me as an ideal candidate for those clans. If he's any mainline clan, it would be Gangrel.

I'd also add that the Brujah as scholar line is more of a "good old days" imagine of Brujah. Brujahs are, for all practical purposes, rebels with and without causes. The scholar Brujah, who are now dubbed the idealist wing, are very rare in America and tend to be made up of the older vampires. It's far more likely for Brujah to be more like street punks.

I'd recommend the Vampire the Masquerade Quick Start Kit for pretty good official descriptions of the VtM clans. It's free. Likewise, this site has a fairly large list of clans complete with official White Wolf material. Beware of pop-ups on it.
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The Lasombra weak ?

Where have you heard or read that ? The Lasombra a more like the opposite. All Lasombra favour strength; strength of will, character and body. One of our Clan Disciplines is Potence and we certainly know how to use it. Most Lasombra even go as far as testing their childe for years for signs of weaknesses. I know of one Lasombra Pack Priest who killed the parents of her potential childe in an car accident and disabled her future childe in that process. Then she tested his inner and outer strength for several years and embraced him in his 20's.

No...Lasombra are no weaklings.


The Tremere spawned the Gargoyle bloodline of Gangrel/Nosferatu and Tzimisce Blood in the Middle Ages, when they were weak, had a lot of enemies and weren't seen as a full Clan yet. They needed Bodyguards !
The Kiasyd were spawned more out of a curiosity of the former Lasombra Prince of Strassbourg while testing with Fairy Blood not out of need to create a bloodline. They are scholars and would certainly make a bad choice of a sheriff. And there a few of them...probably not more then 50 worldwide.

He may be of an African Bloodline, or a Gangrel who lived there for a long time and mastered several of the african disciplines. He could have even learned Obtenebration ( Lasombra's Shadow Discipline ) then, it's quite unusual, but possible.
Btw...save for the Assamites who darken with age, all vampire skins lighten up more and more with age. Which could mean, he was darkskinned in his live.
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