Can't get 'Jonny' quest

Spectre95 · Post by **Spectre95** » Sun May 22, 2005 12:48 am

At the Tannery building in Modoc...there's a guy named Balthas that's supposed to give me a quest to find his son Jonny(who is in the Ghost Farm). The problem is...the option to help find his son doesn't show up in the dialog choices when I talk to him. The only dialog options I get are:
1. Show me your wares
2. Do you know of the Holy G.E.C.K?
3. Just looking around
I've tried them all and they don't work.

I already got Modoc trading with the Slags...I don't know what I could be doing wrong.
And I have the patch installed...so I don't think a glitch is the problem.

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:49 am

I had the same problem. I guess it was due to my low perception. The missing dialog choice would be something like: "You look troubled. What's wrong?". What perception do you have?

Spectre95 · Post by **Spectre95** » Sun May 22, 2005 9:48 pm

I guess that must be the reason. My perception isn't good.
Alright thanks for your help.

Deadalready · Post by **Deadalready** » Tue May 24, 2005 7:33 am

Charisma and speech are very important when talking to other people, often I get the chance to start asking about Balthas's troubles but I usually don't have much charisma (1 or 2) so he'd never give it to me normally.

Kipi · Post by **Kipi** » Tue May 24, 2005 10:22 am

SPOILER WARNING!!

About the quest, how can you get Jonny to tell his story when you find him? I've tried several times selecting different dialogies, but every time he falls sleep. And this is not because of my char stats, because I can't find/get the correct option neither using my edited char (all stats 10, every skill 300%)
nor normal chars. Any ideas how to do it, I can't remember anymore (I've done this quest before, so that I should be able to do it again).

Deadalready · Post by **Deadalready** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:40 am

Intelligence could be a major factor in identifying Johnny (or you haven't met Balthas and gotten the quest).

Kipi · Post by **Kipi** » Thu May 26, 2005 12:02 pm

[QUOTE=Deadalready]Intelligence could be a major factor in identifying Johnny (or you haven't met Balthas and gotten the quest).[/QUOTE]

Not in this case, here are the reasons:
1) My INT is 10 (like everything else)
2) I've talk Balthas and I'm in that point when you have to find Johnny or there will be a war.

Also I know that it's not something to do with my cheat-char, because I've used the same cheat-char when I did the quest last time, so I know it is possible with that specific cheat-char.

Also it came to my mind that could this problem have something to do with the version I have. Now I have the English Version (yes, the same version which doesn't have children), but when I remember last time doing the Johnny quest I think I had American version. I had to buy new version because my old cd broke and when I bough new one I also got Fallout 1 and Fallout: Tactics.
So anyone heard/experienced this problem with english-version?

Robnark · Post by **Robnark** » Thu May 26, 2005 12:56 pm

My version doesn't have children in it - I since patched it - but I was still able to start the Jonny quest as normal. I haven't heard if there's another version with the whole jonny quest removed, not just broken.

Kipi · Post by **Kipi** » Fri May 27, 2005 10:38 am

Well, I didn't mean that the quest has been removed from that version, I meant that maybe in that version there is for some reason bug in the Johnny quest which doesn't exist in other version.

Woozaii · Post by **Woozaii** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:42 am

I can NEVER find Johnny ANYWHERE, but i think some clue relates to him in the Modoc well. Someone also told me that the Slags have captured him or something. But the one Kipi is talking about, is Karl (the missing farmer) who is in The Den. You also need a karma higher than 100-and-something if you want him to talk about Johnny.

To get Karls story, simply approach him and then say "What's your story?". (That is dialogue option number four)

Andrey · Post by **Andrey** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:19 am

I think you need INT 7 or something like that and to finish Quest with Slags first so when Balthas asks who are you, and you say your name, he will say that he heard good things about you.Then you'll get the quest.His son is in cave at Ghost Farm. At least thats how it works with me.

Kipi · Post by **Kipi** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:51 pm

[QUOTE=Woozaii]I can NEVER find Johnny ANYWHERE, but i think some clue relates to him in the Modoc well. Someone also told me that the Slags have captured him or something. But the one Kipi is talking about, is Karl (the missing farmer) who is in The Den. You also need a karma higher than 100-and-something if you want him to talk about Johnny.

To get Karls story, simply approach him and then say "What's your story?". (That is dialogue option number four)[/QUOTE]

Heh, looks like I remembered the name wrong, after all it has been long time since I played Fallout2.

But actually you touched my problem. I don't get that dialogue option. Or if I did, he didn't give me answer, but IIRC I don't get that option anymore.

Woozaii · Post by **Woozaii** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:13 pm

[QUOTE=Kipi]Heh, looks like I remembered the name wrong, after all it has been long time since I played Fallout2.

But actually you touched my problem. I don't get that dialogue option. Or if I did, he didn't give me answer, but IIRC I don't get that option anymore.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm... Its far out... But maybe you can only say it the first time you meet him... But i doubt it.

Andrey · Post by **Andrey** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:15 pm

woozaii

Did you find Jonny, Woozaii?

Woozaii · Post by **Woozaii** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:33 pm

nope... well, i found a skeleton in the Modoc well, and i told Balthas that it was Johnny. So maybe i did

Andrey · Post by **Andrey** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:42 pm

Nooo. Thats not Jonny. Jonny is in caves in Ghost Farm. You need to talk to Jonny and then to ask Slag leader for permission to take him home, but only AFTER you completed quest for Slags and Modoc to become allies.
BTW id like to send you that movie but its 12 mb. Hotmail only can send up to 10 mb.

wishbone · Post by **wishbone** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:37 pm

[QUOTE=Andrey]Nooo. Thats not Jonny. Jonny is in caves in Ghost Farm. You need to talk to Jonny and then to ask Slag leader for permission to take him home, but only AFTER you completed quest for Slags and Modoc to become allies.
BTW id like to send you that movie but its 12 mb. Hotmail only can send up to 10 mb.

[/QUOTE]

Andrey is right... just make sure you don't scare jonny the first time you talk to him...

Woozaii · Post by **Woozaii** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:46 pm

But where in the Slag Caves?? I have searched far and wide, but i cant find any Jonny.

LoneRider · Post by **LoneRider** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:48 am

[QUOTE=Woozaii]But where in the Slag Caves?? I have searched far and wide, but i cant find any Jonny.

[/QUOTE]

Go to west end of the caves. There's an exit grid, which leads another area. You found lots of kids there and Jonny is one of them.

T'rissirahc · Post by **T'rissirahc** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:27 pm

yeah, and what if sb can't even find Ghost Farm? I got the quest from Balthas, but when Jo is asked (Trading Post), he's got nothing to say. Of course, I didn't talk to that guy in Mom's bar (Den).

Got any ideas what to do??