Map of SHadow Ruins Available

lunaraven · Post by **lunaraven** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:09 pm

I made a map of the shadow ruins along with some answers on how to pass some of the puzzles. Let me know what you think!

http://home.comcast.net/~lunaraven_psi/Shadow_Map.html

Zed Zorander · Post by **Zed Zorander** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:39 pm

Well I for one find it very good.

One thing though, using a crystal of time does NOT help when jumping the pillars as the clock for the shadow gate works in real time.

lunaraven · Post by **lunaraven** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:58 pm

I found that if you cast the crystal of time and then hit the floor plate, it does work, you just have to activate the door after you cast the spell not before

toddhd · Post by **toddhd** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:04 pm

Thank you for the map! I'm not there yet, but I know I'll need it when I get there...

lunaraven · Post by **lunaraven** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:24 pm

you are welcome!

Zed Zorander · Post by **Zed Zorander** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:21 pm

[QUOTE=lunaraven]I found that if you cast the crystal of time and then hit the floor plate, it does work, you just have to activate the door after you cast the spell not before[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately for me, that didn't work

I remember an omission in your map:
In the room to the left of the starting room (before the two templar knights/directly north of the starting room) there is a loose book (right side of the room) which opens a secret room with Treasure on the lefthand side of the room as you enter.

Teffass Oakenro · Post by **Teffass Oakenro** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:15 pm

Island maps

I've got a map of some of the islands...looks like a finite state automata...
any computer science people out there (besides myself) that can identify them as deterministic vs non-deterministic?
(Hint: you dont need the map to tell)

Teffass Oakenroot
MS Computer Science
Villanova University 2003

And you thought you'd never need to remember that stuff....

lunaraven · Post by **lunaraven** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:18 pm

that is on there. it is the room with the two athena guardians isn't it? i know there is a loose tombe on there

blueray · Post by **blueray** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:53 pm

I wanted to add someting for your map, section C where there are Athena Bashers and pillars with glyphs, you have to jump onto the pillars with the blue-ish rune that look like a 7 with a small triangle beside it (IIRC...).
The glyph will send you to the next pillar with the same glyph, which will avoid the Athena Bashers.

Teffass Oakenro · Post by **Teffass Oakenro** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:00 pm

No I mean the island area which portal on which island goes to which other island....that's not on there....

TO

lunaraven · Post by **lunaraven** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:22 pm

i didn't map the islands because i got turned around on them and never knew if i was on a different island or the same ones.

I will add the tip to the wind room on the map tomorrow morning

Zed Zorander · Post by **Zed Zorander** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:40 am

[QUOTE=lunaraven]that is on there. it is the room with the two athena guardians isn't it? i know there is a loose tombe on there[/QUOTE]

Actually the room before the two templar knights. The room directly north of where you first enter the dungeon.

lunaraven · Post by **lunaraven** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:39 am

check my map and let me know if that is where the room and book are. They are in red until someone confirms them for me.

Zed Zorander · Post by **Zed Zorander** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:52 am

The loose tome is in the right place but, the secret room is in the same room (i.e about an inch higher than where you put it).

Also, I discovered another secret room with two Level 8 Chests: it's in the room next to the knight (shadow door) just under the rune. When you activate the rune glyph you have to quickly jump down (where the knight now holds the sword) and enter the alcove. This will take you to a room below containing two chests, a few crates and barrels. To exit that room, a shadowgate will take you back to the room above.

lunaraven · Post by **lunaraven** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:23 am

Try it now

toddhd · Post by **toddhd** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:31 pm

[QUOTE=Zed Zorander]One thing though, using a crystal of time does NOT help when jumping the pillars as the clock for the shadow gate works in real time.[/QUOTE]
Worked just fine for me. I had time to make the jumps, then open crates on both sides and still made it into the portal before it closed.

I'm confused about the room with the 3 Athena stautes (section B on your map) - the room just PAST the floating islands.

The three statues never attack me, and none of the portals are active save one. If I go through the active portal, I just end up on the islands. The islands bring back to the same room - islands - room - islands - room - ad nauseum. I never see any "treasure chest", nor do I see any way out of here now. What am I missing?

lunaraven · Post by **lunaraven** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:36 pm

when you get to the island with the arched gate on it, that is when you turn around and go throught the other gate until you get to a treasure chest. the chest has a soul stone to put in the athena statue. kill her then another gate opens..rinse repeat

lunaraven · Post by **lunaraven** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:30 pm

did i get everything on there now?

BadBreath · Post by **BadBreath** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:50 am

[QUOTE=lunaraven]when you get to the island with the arched gate on it, that is when you turn around and go throught the other gate until you get to a treasure chest. the chest has a soul stone to put in the athena statue. kill her then another gate opens..rinse repeat[/QUOTE]

Ok, I just got stuck here too. Going to try it now. Good map, thanks.

edit: Yup, works like a charm.

Also I would like to add that there is a level 9 treasure chest in the area behind lord kingston. When you raise the platforms (in between the fire spouts), a secret doorway opens. The doorway is opposite of the knight in the middle. The doorway also stays open very shortly.

BB

MARK1952 · Post by **MARK1952** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:08 pm

OK what is the deal with the room with all the Shadow gates and Lord Kingston's statue and the Templar Knight statues, I have read that you activate the two templars and a "ledge" appears, done this five or six times and no ledge? is the ledge supposed to appear on the small alcove that is in the middle of the room?