Jedi Masters (some spoilers)

tj_92 · Post by **tj_92** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:56 am

dont you think the jedi masters are lazy b@st@tds who think they're amazing?
and like if you finish the game dark you kick the crap outta them so easily! and they're meant to be amazing! and they also do nothing they think they're all that then why dont they go find the other jedi masters?? ey, they send you out on it while they stand back at the ruins as if they're the best well they're not! who agrees?

Darth Itchy · Post by **Darth Itchy** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:07 pm

I dunno about lazy. I think just cold. First, they kick the Exile out of the order, insted of trying to rehabilitate him/her. i mean, they put Revan through rehab and gave him a chance, why not him/her? Especially considering that he/she's the only one who had the guts to come back. Second, rather than risk a "precious" jedi master, the use the Exile to do their dirty work, due to the danger involved. It's logical, but cold.

SupaCat · Post by **SupaCat** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:38 pm

Jedi master always send puppets out to do therework. Btw maybe they exiled him becous he can just sneak around in the public saving the world, while a M jedi,;; i mean a guy with a rope, looking jedi like ... Who can it be. and they used Revan becous of his great power. I mean he was lord of the sith! YOU KNOW!!!! Thats why he needed to kill malek.

And Btw the jedi stayed at there planets to protect and hide from the sith. Like I said jedi Master are easily know

tj_92 · Post by **tj_92** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:49 pm

fine but they should do some of their own dirty work i want to see an expansion pack where they go off and do the mission and you stay back and re-build the enclave kinda like makin a house on the sims

lol

Davja Eloma · Post by **Davja Eloma** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:13 pm

What would have been the point of the game then, had the Jedi Masters went on the quests instead of the player character? In fact, there would have been no point to even make the game in the first place.

SupaCat · Post by **SupaCat** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:14 am

I agree. there are so many things other people could do. Like on that planet from Carth they ask you to find a murderer. Since when do you have a inspector diploma!!!!

vinmi pasu · Post by **vinmi pasu** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:37 pm

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These Jedi masters are blinded by the 'light' if you get what I mean.
They cannot see how the force has weakened them, they hang on to it like a child holds a security blanket.
As Kreia states, take the force away from a Jedi and what do you have left.
In terms of adding anything worthy to the game, well....they dont.
All 3 are fairly easy pickings, if you choose to kill them.
I played DS first and killed them all, when I got to the rebuilt enclave and Kreia appeared, I had a bad feeling she was going to bust me up. So I decided on my LS playthrough I would spare them, and they could help me kick her butt right?? 3 Jedi masters and me Vs the old hag, easy pickings right?? we would go on and save the galaxy! how wrong was I they gave me some baloni about how bad I was (eh... i had LS mastery, they blind or something) then in walks Kreia and kills em all with one round of deathfield!!
What was the point!

Dart_Xerpoth · Post by **Dart_Xerpoth** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:51 am

Atris

The jedi masters are proud and cold,is you take atris for example she doesn't want to admit she has fallen to the dark side. And Vrook and Kavar get angry but they dont want to admit it, i think only (cant remember his name, you fight him on Nar Shaada and he has a double purple lightsabre) keeps his cool the most

Chimaera182 · Post by **Chimaera182** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:49 am

[QUOTE=vinmi pasu]
These Jedi masters are blinded by the 'light' if you get what I mean.
They cannot see how the force has weakened them, they hang on to it like a child holds a security blanket.
As Kreia states, take the force away from a Jedi and what do you have left.
In terms of adding anything worthy to the game, well....they dont.
All 3 are fairly easy pickings, if you choose to kill them.
I played DS first and killed them all, when I got to the rebuilt enclave and Kreia appeared, I had a bad feeling she was going to bust me up. So I decided on my LS playthrough I would spare them, and they could help me kick her butt right?? 3 Jedi masters and me Vs the old hag, easy pickings right?? we would go on and save the galaxy! how wrong was I they gave me some baloni about how bad I was (eh... i had LS mastery, they blind or something) then in walks Kreia and kills em all with one round of deathfield!!
What was the point![/QUOTE]
I no longer think Kreia killed the Jedi Masters. I recently completed two games: one as a Jedi, one as a Sith who had not killed any of the Jedi Masters. When Kreia marches in, she tells the Jedi Masters that they should see the universe through the Exile's eyes, which is when she attacks them. I think she ripped the Force from them but didn't actually kill them. When you try to select their "corpses," it says something about them being lifeless, but something worse than death as the Force has been ripped from them, or something like that (if you recall the little video T3 stole, the Jedi seem to think something similar happened to you; Atris says you're already dead, and they all seem to agree the Force is no longer present in the exile). And later, when you confront Darth Traya, and she says she used you to lure the Jedi Masters out of hiding to destroy them, "destroy" does not necessarily translate into "kill." I think the Jedi Masters are alive but unable to touch the Force. They have to rely on learning other skills instead of the Force in order to survive in the galaxy now. After all, did not Kreia once tell the exile that the greatest victory is to make your opponent see through your eyes rather than close them forever? What better way to make the Jedi see through the eyes of the exile than to make them all experience what s/he went through?

Darth Zenemij · Post by **Darth Zenemij** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:11 pm

Well, the jedi council did want anything to happen to them, like fall to the dark side, get killed or anyhting like that, the knew the mandalorians woul pwn them. Furthermore, the Masters were blinded by the Light, so were you, if you were fuly light sided. I think The Council tried to play it smart, but somewhere it backfired.

Asguard · Post by **Asguard** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:07 pm

does anyone else think vrook is on the path to the dark side?

i mean if atris is then surly he is?
look at how he talks in the first one, look at the video on the droid at the landing, look at how he talks on the vid t4 has and look how he acts

if it was vanda i think things would have gone differently