monk is the lousiest character!

fanatic · Post by **fanatic** » Fri Feb 02, 2001 9:19 am

ok.even my npc is far greater than him!
whats his special?
i heard his good but he wasted my time playing!
i finished the game once btw with kensai/mage

what other class worth trying?
monk is the lousiest(sorry to say it again i can't help it

Ares · Post by **Ares** » Fri Feb 02, 2001 10:48 am

What didnt you like about the monk? I am using one now and so far he has some really good points and the only bad is that he gets his ass kciked a lot.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri Feb 02, 2001 11:07 am

Wait 'till later LVL's, then the Monk comes into it's ascendancy.

With it's raising AC and the greater speed they are excellent.

Genesis · Post by **Genesis** » Fri Feb 02, 2001 12:33 pm

Monks actually start to rock around level 13 when they get the magic resistance and quivering palm...do you know anyone else that can drop a dragon with 1 punch?

bootlegcorndogs · Post by **bootlegcorndogs** » Fri Feb 02, 2001 12:41 pm

You out of your mind? Monks are TOO friggin' strong. By far the most overpowered class.

It's interesting, but there seems to be a bias in this direction in EVERY game with a monk-type character. Anyone else notice this? Look at Diablo 2, or FFT, or Darkness Falls: Crusade if anyone's heard of that. (I had a much longer list of games with overpowered monks in them at one time, but I can only think of those three and this one offhand.) Someone else think of a game with a monk class and see if they're overpowered there too.

It's interesting why this happens, and I think I've come up with a theory. Game designers have to balance out a universal lack of weapons and a general lack of armor against other characters that can use both, and that's hard to do precisely. No one is sure how to make punches equal to weapons, since weapons change but the fists don't. So they tend to err on the side of making the unarmed/armored classes TOO strong rather than too weak.

Either that, or everyone watches too much DBZ.

-BC

Vicsun · Post by **Vicsun** » Fri Feb 02, 2001 2:23 pm

Hmm... I've played monk only once. I didn't like him but I played with him only 5 min to test him. The smoke mephit (north from your cell) almost killed me! I didn't have a weapon or armour, but I'm not supposed to right? I'm not saying that monks su!k, since I really havn't played with one but what did I do wrong? Left to 3 HP by a mephit?

Vicsun · Post by **Vicsun** » Fri Feb 02, 2001 2:32 pm

P.S. He was playing a kensai\mage. After that any class could seem lousy.

KN · Post by KN » Fri Feb 02, 2001 3:26 pm

I am trying to solo a monk right now and hes not doing very well. He is level 10 and the only way he can kill anything is by using thief style tactics by hiding then hitting something and running away and hiding again. I sure hope you guys are right about monks getting powerful at high levels because at level 10 they suck.

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zorac · Post by **zorac** » Fri Feb 02, 2001 4:06 pm

A monk was the first character I finished the game with and she rocked. A high level monk is very good indeed.

SubTerran · Post by **SubTerran** » Fri Feb 02, 2001 5:20 pm

I don't know what you people are talking about! monks are great, I played with a monk, he layed the smack down on everyone in his path, even at low level, all those memphits got whooped by my monk. Fanatic, why would you play as kensai/mage the first time you went through the game? try a class that was actually designed by game to be passed with, like a MONK!

fanatic · Post by **fanatic** » Sat Feb 03, 2001 10:53 am

kensai /mage is great..thats why i think monk is lousy..well after playing for a while...i think he's okay.

and kensai /mage IS designed for the game...
but solo isn't..

p.s the killing dragon with one blow is cool...!

Hazim ibn Gorion · Post by **Hazim ibn Gorion** » Sat Feb 03, 2001 2:17 pm

I played monk with my first game, and I have yet to see another PC with that much power. It's true that he's a bit weak at first, but around 12 or 13, he starts to get seriously dangerous. By the time I got to the underdark, he had over 50% magic resist, plenty of HPs and could take 4 attacks at d20 each. And if he picks up the Gauntlets of crushing and cloak of mirrors in the sharky city...well, hell, he's just a god at that point. I took him back to Athkatla and aced Kangaxx on the first try.

Kane · Post by **Kane** » Sat Feb 03, 2001 2:45 pm

No way man!!! Monks the main man!!!
I played a single player with monk as the main chr. Now ive started an MP with a swashbuckler/mage but i have still put a Monk in my party .At high level he is Very usefull,and so quick.

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fanatic · Post by **fanatic** » Sun Feb 04, 2001 11:13 am

okay.now i'm at level 13th.he's starting to rock...!~
i got a feeling i'm gonna loce him!

KN · Post by KN » Mon Feb 05, 2001 9:00 am

Yeah I am 13 now also and he just wasted a Beholder and 2 gaths all by himself without any reflection items. I was impressed.

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"Four thousand throats may be cut in one night, by a running man."
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KN · Post by KN » Fri Feb 09, 2001 8:47 am

OK now he is Lev 20 and just killed Adolan the dragon in one hit! LOL

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"Four thousand throats may be cut in one night, by a running man."
- Klingon Crewman "Day of the Dove"