Here, just lay back, relax, and drink this potion...

FoulDwimmerlaik · Post by **FoulDwimmerlaik** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:07 pm

Most useful potion? I haven't found much use for a lot of them other than speed, giant strength and health/healing. Other findings?

Drakron Du´Dark · Post by **Drakron Du´Dark** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:09 pm

The potion of gineus for a mage,the potion of master thief for a thief...

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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
Friedrich Nietzsche

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:11 pm

Probably don't need them much. I have one character with every item slot filled with various potions. I have been hording them, but have never had a need for them. I will keep a few just in case I get stuck. Not to say there aren't some powerful potions, I have just been able to use a spell for the same effect whenever necessary.

FoulDwimmerlaik · Post by **FoulDwimmerlaik** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:11 pm

thief one yes. what does genious do? I haven't found a need for it yet. my pc is mage and intel of 18

Genesis · Post by **Genesis** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:17 pm

Potion of genius adds like 5 pts to your int...not much use for your main char..but definately a big help for aerie and nalia...cause they can learn more spells with the higher int.

Drakron Du´Dark · Post by **Drakron Du´Dark** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:19 pm

yes but Aerie and Imoen are of less int so they cant learn all the spells since the potion bost the int as long the potion last they can learn all spells(as a 18 or + would) and they are very useful againt the "brain suking" mindflayer attack.

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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
Friedrich Nietzsche

FoulDwimmerlaik · Post by **FoulDwimmerlaik** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:20 pm

ah, and since I don't have either of them in my party, I'm probably fine without it. I keep my party simple:

PC: Mage
Jaheira
Yoshimo
Minsc (w/boo)

Genesis · Post by **Genesis** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:33 pm

Hey i like some of my games simple too..heres one party i have. haven't got back to pick up imoen yet.

me (mage/thief)..im much better than yoshimo
minsc&boo (pure fighter)
Jahaira (half healer/figher)
aerie (half healer/half mage/half ranged)

FoulDwimmerlaik · Post by **FoulDwimmerlaik** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:36 pm

sounds good. I like Yoshimo's traps & snares, and his archery with the Tungian Bow and bracers of archery, and of course boo is hard to beat.

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:45 pm

Imoen also can benefit from the Potion of Genius. I've seen several times people recommending to be careful what spells you learn for given levels -- just learn them all and use the potions.

Also: Potion of Mind Focussing -- Potion of Genius PLUS Dex bonus.

For Kensai: Potion of Defense -- Full Plate Mail in a bottle.

Foss · Post by **Foss** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 4:02 pm

I only used the portions of healing and Antidote...

Dangerman · Post by **Dangerman** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 4:10 pm

potion of master thievery is excellent for a low level thief. healing potions are great for the heat of battle, but only the stronger ones

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 4:55 pm

Well for me the potion of magic shielding is THE most usable potion in the game. For three whole turns you make every saving throw, thus making you proof against everything that allows saving throws at all. Fear no poison, mindmagic, paralyzation, sudden death or other ill and foul things that could befall your precious characters.

FoulDwimmerlaik · Post by **FoulDwimmerlaik** » Wed Jan 10, 2001 5:08 pm

that sounds like a good one. don't think i've seen (or noticed it yet).

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu Jan 11, 2001 4:46 am

I drink a shed load of potions before big fights - deal out more damage, receive fewer wounds and keeps those slots free. Oh, and sell the naff ones - potions are quite expensive.

Black Hand · Post by **Black Hand** » Thu Jan 11, 2001 4:57 am

Only use the Genius ones. Combat enhancements are provided by cleric/mage spells.

Master thievery? Oh, if you can't pick it, knock it!

Hex92 · Post by **Hex92** » Thu Jan 11, 2001 9:12 am

What will the potion of genius actually do for you? I have played thru BGI, TSOC, and BGII and I have never used one. I realize that it raises your intelligence for a while, but I fail to see how that could be of real use. Please fill me in on what I a missing here.

Hex92

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu Jan 11, 2001 9:16 am

It increases % chance learning spells. It lets you write more spells than you normally could (but not memorize - it doesn't last long enough).

For BG2 it helps you against Vs the brain-sucking Illithids.

@Black hand. I say *write*, not memorize.

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Black Hand · Post by **Black Hand** » Thu Jan 11, 2001 9:17 am

Intelligence is only important for mages. Their intelligence determines the learning probability of spells, as well as the maximum number of spells they can have per spell-level. If the mages intelligence is 19 and above he can learn all spells available, so thats the use of Genius potions.

@Gruntboy:
Intelligence does not influence the number of spells a mage can memorize at all. This works only with clerics/druids and wisdom. The only effects are those I mentioned above.

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Drakron Du´Dark · Post by **Drakron Du´Dark** » Thu Jan 11, 2001 9:18 am

Ok.
You are limited by the INT score to a munber of spells that you can learn. at 19 INT you can learn all spells,a example a 15 INT mage can not learn more lv1 spells but the mage have found a "protection from evil" spell so he drinks a potion of genius and get a 20 Int for a limeted time and now he can learn that spell.
A potion not in the game a potion of greater endurance for bed time with viconia.

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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
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