Glaicus Spoiler

Shados_Draconio · Post by **Shados_Draconio** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:27 am

Ok, in Nalia's Castle, when you're going to Liberate it from the trolls, you run into Glaicus, the leader of the knights or guard or something. I think I once read someone had gotten him to calm down or something, like he was spelled.

Every time I go up against him, I have to kill him. even AFTER I liberate the place.

so, question:
Do I HAVE to kill him or is there a way to NOT kill him?

~Shady~

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:46 am

Without giving too much away:

You don't want to kill him, you want him to join your side. Perhaps if you could 'charm' him back. Wink Wink

Shados_Draconio · Post by **Shados_Draconio** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:13 am

Wil he still give me the flail head?

Sytze · Post by **Sytze** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:17 am

Yes, but charming him is kind of bugged. You have to, possibly, try it multiple times before you succeed. Usually, the Ring of Human Influence works wonders, though.

Ohh, and there's really no need to keep writing the entire text in black when you already mentioned spoilers in the title. It's a bit annoying actually.

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:35 am

Every time I've come up against Glacias this has annoyed me

. How do you get Glacias on your side. I've tried multiple Charm and Domination spells ranging from low to high levels and even when succesful, the computer tells me I cannot talk to someone who is 'mind-controlled'.

The best I can do is disarm him of his weapon before the spell runs out.

Arch_Angel · Post by **Arch_Angel** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:28 am

I think you had to dominate him and then use a 'dispell magic' spell on him didn't you? As already stated he's actually pretty bugged and not worth all the reloads. I usually just kill him and be done with it, it's not really worth the frustration of all that reloading.

Yes he will give you the flail head if you charm him back.

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:37 am

[QUOTE=Arch_Angel]I think you had to dominate him and then use a 'dispell magic' spell on him didn't you? As already stated he's actually pretty bugged and not worth all the reloads. I usually just kill him and be done with it, it's not really worth the frustration of all that reloading.[/QUOTE]

Well, if you do the proper way, I do believe you receive far more exp, which is great if you go early in the game, however less if you go later.

As for me, I have heard how it is bugged, yet it has always worked for me. I guess I'm just lucky ...

Deadalready · Post by **Deadalready** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:24 am

It's pretty hard to charm Glacius after he's gone aggressive. One of the easiest ways I suppose is to fire a charm spell at him and use Keldorn to dispel a second after the spell is cast.

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:37 am

For me, once the spell is cast succesfully at Glacias, a message pops up 'Glacias- Dispels Effect' (and the animation) and then he goes green. Dispelling this, just makes him go hostile again.

Glacias just isn't worth the trouble

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Cuchulain82 · Post by **Cuchulain82** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:05 am

I've tried many many times to charm Glacias. As a matter of fact, I've probably spent more time on that than I did studying to final exams in undergrad. With that said, I've never been able to get it to work- not once. When I try, I always end up with it flashing green for just a sec, followed by him turning red again.

I've given up.

(I play on a Mac, so this might have something to do with it)

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:07 am

I've tried various methods of trying to charm him as well. It has never worked for me, no matter what. I end up just killing him

note:
I play on PC

JackOfClubs · Post by **JackOfClubs** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:35 pm

I got it to work the first time I played without really knowing how I did it. I tried unsuccessfully several times afterward and only got it to work one other time. I am pretty sure you need Nalia in your party for it to work (I had her both times, anyway.)

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:24 pm

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs] I am pretty sure you need Nalia in your party for it to work (I had her both times, anyway.)[/QUOTE]
I usually drop a party member temporarily to bring Nalia along (if you don't bring her you don't get the 10 K), and even with her in the party I can't get it to work.
It has to be one of those weird, buggy things. Maybe it even depends on the edition of your game, I don't know.

Koveras · Post by **Koveras** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:44 pm

I may be wrong, but I think what happens is, you first charm him, then after he's green, attack him to break the charm script. Then for a split second he'll turn blue, during that time, pause and talk to him before he becomes red again.

Can anyone confirm this?

dj_venom · Post by **dj_venom** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:56 pm

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs]I got it to work the first time I played without really knowing how I did it. I tried unsuccessfully several times afterward and only got it to work one other time. I am pretty sure you need Nalia in your party for it to work (I had her both times, anyway.)[/QUOTE]

Nope, you don't need Nalia.

And I can't remember what I did, but I played on PC and it worked fine.

Shados_Draconio · Post by **Shados_Draconio** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:04 pm

won't friggin work.

ok, no matter what I do, it won't work. he just keeps coming after me.

He turns green, and stupid me, I forgot to turn AI off. my guys begin firing on him and he goes RIGHT BACK to red. I have Minsc in my party, and let him take the hits until he calms down. but he kills Minsc quick.

WHAT happens exactly if it works right, anyway? What does it do for you?

SP101 · Post by **SP101** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:21 pm

Here is the colored circle progession for my game...

*Glacius Attack* - Red Circle
*Charm Spell* - Green Circle (if he fails his save)
*Script run* - Blue Circle (Neutral one)

Shados_Draconio · Post by **Shados_Draconio** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:00 pm

ok, I tried again. I end up casting EVERY spell I can to get this, but STILL no luck. Anyone got the COMPLETE right way to knock this guy into his right self? cause just once before I kill him, I'd like to see it.

Koveras · Post by **Koveras** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:10 pm

What happens is when you charm glacius, the spell breaks the dialogue script. So you have to let the script run by attacking him to break the charm spell. It is really only for a split second that he'll turn blue, and you have to pause at the exact time, cancel all your attacks on him, and then talk to him.

As for the spell usage, dominate would be the best choice with the -2 save penalty. It takes several tries to get it right, but hey you get to be a hero and save an innocent life and whatnot.

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:29 am

Did Bioware put Glacias in this game just to annoy everyone?

The XP reward should be huge.

The odd thing amount this in my opinion is the dispel effects line on Glacias after a succesful charming spell. This has to do something, although if I dispel the charm he goes hostile again and in the strategy guide I have nothing is mentioned about attacking him (just split-second timing - talk to him just before the charm takes effect maybe when he gets the dispels effect line).