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Dual Weapons?

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I'm thinking of starting over and playing a pure fighter/adept character.
I plan to eventually pick the maurader class to take advantage of the dual weapon wields.
I have been reading that this may be "broke", and that there are few, if any, weapons that you can dual wield, light or medium.
Could anyone who has advanced their character to this point please respond, does this skill work?
From your experiences, is dual wield really worth it, or is going with a heavy weapon/shield combo the better choice?
I think dual wield sounds really fun, I just hope it works.
Any input from anyone who has "been there and done that" would be greatly appreciated.
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There are almost no medium weapons that can be dual wielded, but there are a bunch of light ones. Plus, you still get to use a shield when you dual wield, so it is much better than a heavy weapon and a shield.

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i have been studying the dual light wielding for a little while and i dont see a pay off for the marauder class everyone speaks so highly about it but when i looked into a samurai i saw that they get inflict wounds skill and dual light weilding. With this being said maybe you should look into doing this instead. I know i am reloading it back to where i was before i became a maruader.
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I'm going through a second time, and I went the samurai route this time. You get all the bonuses of dual weapons, and get inflict wounds, and it's a tier 2 class. I really don't even see any point of going for a tier 3 fighter with the samurai around, so I've got a Big, Dumb Samurai/Paladin Urgoth who I'm gunna make a Crusader. 2 diabolic skills, dual wield, great support magic skills (rune and celestial, which are both supported by channel), and with my tier 2 classes I can use heavy everything and get learning bonuses.
However, dual weapons doesn't really do much for you except increase your attack speed. I'll post my pics in that thread, though he's only lvl 11 so far.
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i beg to differ i found that your advanced combo lasts way longer then the single sword combo. It makes sense that it lasts longer cuz your swinging two swords. Are you making more attacks then the single advanced combo i tend to think so. With this being said then you would tend to deal more damage. i also found that the whole extra heraldy warrior i got for going fighter did make me take off more unless the dual weapons makes you take off more. cuz in the part of the combo where you stab with both weapons chars tend to drop at that point. I dont know im still trying to figure this out any comments or ideas to this point?
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Well, in a round about way, that's what I meant. You're swinging two weapons, and each does it's own damage (minus any modifiers or special effects the secondary weapon has), so you almost get two strikes to one. Also, it seems that you get about 9 or 10 hits with a dual weapon combo, as opposed to the 5 or 6 with a single. Also, while the sideways spins seems to kind of suck, the towards attack when you stab with both seems to do extra damage (I don't know if it's the total of both weapons, the total of both weapons plus a damage bonus, or the first weapon plus its damage bonus (I'd put my money there)), then the second towards slash with both weapons hits both going out, and coming back, and can hit extra characters if you turn while in the right position, and it does extra damage the same way as the first.
Essentially, I prefer to run around with dual weapons equipped, especially if the total of the two is close to the total of my best single weapon. However, when fighting a boss or a single large enemy, I often like to switch to my large two handed weapon, as single hits do more damage, and against them I seem to get the same number of single hits using two small weapons or a sigle big one. Also, large two handed weapons seem to do more knockback damage for me too.
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i have also noticed against bigger monsters if you have speed maxed out that if you jump in on them and attack in the air you seem to swing way faster. i can swing like a total of 4 or five times before i hit the ground mayber more. So if you press your attack button as fast as you can you hit like four times which knocks back that big monster and you go straight into your combo which is dual weapons and you get a total of like 14 hits if you land them all i have done this and if you pull it off you get your next full or half combo before the monster can do anything try this out and tell me what you think. It works real well!
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Dual Weapons Follow-Up

Thanks for the feedback, your advice was both informative and appreciated.
Just one more quick question for anyone out there who may know.
Can you dual wield a medium weapon in the primary slot, and a light weapon in the secondary slot?
If this is possible, this might make the medium dual wield a little more attractive.
Thanks again.
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Yeah, you can. However, I don't think that changes with dual weapons. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never found any weapons that medium dual let me wield that light dual didn't. Actually, I've got a samurai atm with a barbtongue blade, which is a heavy weapon in my primary slot, and a Kris blade, which is a light weapon in the secondary slot. Also, all of the medium axes (dwarven axes, reavers) can be dual wielded in the primary slot with just light dual. Also, the barbtongue blades and katanas (heavy swords) can be dual wielded in the primary hand with just light dual weapons. No broadswords or blades of 'whatever' for heavy swords can be dual wield tho. Nor does medium dual let you use any of the medium swords in your secondary slot.

Also, I tried that jumping 14 hit combo, and you're right, it does work quite nicely. I usually backup and attack for poisonous things, or bees, and can hit almost as fast as I can hit the button.
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Post by Valper »

works well dont it. Hack away my friend hack away. ;)
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