questions questions questions (Spoilers)

darth_daniel · Post by **darth_daniel** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:37 am

Hi, I´m about to finish KotoR II for the 2nd time now, both times LS, and the more I begin to understand the game the more questions I have.
So, the 1st one: HK-47 finds out that T3-M4 has manipulated the navigations computer. But I haven´t got enough influence to talk to him about it. Does T3-M4 hide the location where Revan went to? And if you discover it, will the Exile go there at the end of the game?
2nd: Does HK-47 know where Revan went? He´s been on his/her ship, so he should know.
3rd: Kreia seems to know much about Revan, but again I haven´t got enough influence on her to talk about it. Was she her former master? At one point in the game some character says something about a female Jedi master of Revan who left the order. Was that Kreia?
I would appreciate any answers!

w666tvr · Post by **w666tvr** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:56 am

[QUOTE=darth_daniel]1st one: HK-47 finds out that T3-M4 has manipulated the navigations computer. But I haven´t got enough influence to talk to him about it. Does T3-M4 hide the location where Revan went to? And if you discover it, will the Exile go there at the end of the game?[/QUOTE]
T3 was the only member of the party from the original game to travel with Revan when he left the others behind. He will shed some light on this when you have enough influence with him, have done some repair/computer work on him at least once, and have an intelligence of 15 (including bonuses). However, there isn't much that he can tell now, as you will find out.

Talking to T3 doesn't change the ending of the game. Following/ finding Revan is left to (presumably/ hopefully) KotOR III.

[QUOTE=darth_daniel]2nd: Does HK-47 know where Revan went? He´s been on his/her ship, so he should know.[/QUOTE]
HK was zapped by Revan before he left; he wasn't trusted to stay behind if ordered. So HK doesn't know where Revan went specifically, any more than Carth or Bastilla (have you found those scenes?

) do. HK's memory does worry T3, because he is trying to keep his head down and knows that HK could make that impossible if he recovered his memories.

[QUOTE=darth_daniel]3rd: Kreia seems to know much about Revan, but again I haven´t got enough influence on her to talk about it. Was she her former master? At one point in the game some character says something about a female Jedi master of Revan who left the order. Was that Kreia?[/QUOTE]
Spoiler, highlight to read: yes, Kreia will confirm (with influence) that Revan was her Padawan and that was the reason she was exiled by the Jedi Order.

darth_daniel · Post by **darth_daniel** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:45 am

Sorry, more questions:

Was Malachor originally a normal planet with people living there or was it always abandoned and such a horrible place? And at the end of the game, does Malachor implode? It seems as if it was breaking in 3 big pieces or something like that and all the damaged ship parts sucked into it. That right?

Oh and, what did you mean there isn´t much T3 can tell me cause I´ll find out? Do you mean he doesn´t know more than what Kreia tells me at the end? Please tell me if you know more, I don´t think I´ll play it a 3rd time...thanks!

w666tvr · Post by **w666tvr** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:14 am

[QUOTE=darth_daniel]Was Malachor originally a normal planet with people living there or was it always abandoned and such a horrible place?[/QUOTE]
Malachor has always been a source of dark side energy, so, yes, it is safe to say that Malachor has always been an unpleasant place. There is no mention in the game or the canon (such as it is) about it being inhabited before the Mandalorian wars. The Academy may have been constructed by Revan, or it may have been a relic of the True Sith; the game and the canon can't seem to agree. If you can put up with the inconsistancies/ contradictions and fancy a read, you could always check out the chronicles, here . Not too reliable, but it passes a few minutes in an agreeable way.

[QUOTE=darth_daniel]And at the end of the game, does Malachor implode? It seems as if it was breaking in 3 big pieces or something like that and all the damaged ship parts sucked into it. That right?

[/QUOTE]
Explosion/ Implosion... You're not the only one confused. Whatever the MSG did to Malachor when it was first activated it caused the ships in orbit to crash, but did not end its influence there. Re-activating the MSG destroys Malachor ending the famous "echo". Wikipedia is equally confused, but you can read their contribution here .

[QUOTE=darth_daniel]Oh and, what did you mean there isn´t much T3 can tell me cause I´ll find out? Do you mean he doesn´t know more than what Kreia tells me at the end?[/QUOTE]
T3 carries a message (either from Carth or Bastilla depending upon whether you said Revan was LS/DS Male/Female when you spoke to Atton at the beginning in the force cage). The message itself isn't important; the person who left it knows that he/ she is about to be left behind and wants to make sure that T3 will keep Revan safe. T3 also travelled with Revan and brought the Hawk back, either because Revan sent him back or because Carth/ Bastilla told him to come back and find help if it all went sideways. Either way, he can't tell you much more because, after the Navicomputer was locked, he wiped his memory.

darth_daniel · Post by **darth_daniel** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:32 am

Okay, thanks, that´s about as much as I already knew!

About the academy, in one text which appears while loading/saving it is stated that the academy is thousands of years old and Revan discovered it but didn´t build it. And when they are talking about Malachor being located at the edge of the old Sith Empire, it´s very likely that the academy was left over from ancient times.

bishop_2005 · Post by **bishop_2005** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:29 am

I think it was actually stated that Revan discovered the tomb on Malachor, and was further corrupted my the dark energies within. He didn't actually build it.

w666tvr · Post by **w666tvr** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:06 am

[QUOTE=bishop_2005]I think it was actually stated that Revan discovered the tomb on Malachor...[/QUOTE]
All I said was that other sources outside the game tell a different story. As the game appears to be setting up for a third installment featuring the True Sith, I find the games' version much more compelling...

darth_daniel · Post by **darth_daniel** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:22 am

Another question that came to my mind (sorry): Are Mandalore and Canderous Ordo from KotoR 1 the same person? Because at the end of KotoR 2, when speaking to Kreia and asking about the future of the party members, she speaks of Canderous and not Mandalore. And on Dxun, when Kreia secretly talks to Mandalore, she says something that he once followed her (Revan I guess?). Am I right or.....not?

w666tvr · Post by **w666tvr** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:37 am

Yup. Also, in that confrontation with Kreia he says "The Mandalorians still live. Clan Ordo still lives."

I don't know if he will confirm it, himself, with influence, as I'm not big on playing DS and there aren't many opportunities for influence with Mandalore.