The Heathen Citadel
[QUOTE=ch85us2001]Ill be back in 15 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for telling us
This is what I mean. If he went somewhere, why tell us? And if he thought it was important we know, why not leave some kind of thought/comment on what has been said?? Sorry for picking apart an individual post, but this is my point, all too often I see something like this, which really isn't necessary.
Thanks for telling us
This is what I mean. If he went somewhere, why tell us? And if he thought it was important we know, why not leave some kind of thought/comment on what has been said?? Sorry for picking apart an individual post, but this is my point, all too often I see something like this, which really isn't necessary. Mag: Don't remember much at all of last night do you?
Me: put simply.... No
Mag: From what I put together of your late night drunken ramblings? Vodka, 3 girls, and then we played tic-tac-toe and slapped each other around.
Me: put simply.... No
Mag: From what I put together of your late night drunken ramblings? Vodka, 3 girls, and then we played tic-tac-toe and slapped each other around.
The kind of guidelines you wish to set are going to conform the HC as any of the other threads. And once you take steps in that direction, you lose what you had in the HC whether you wish it or not.
It's courtesy to say you're leaving, giles. Would you like it if someone who was talking to you, suddenly got up and left without explanation?
In general I would agree and I try to avoid doing so, if possible.
Sorry for the double post. Don't know how that happened.
It's courtesy to say you're leaving, giles. Would you like it if someone who was talking to you, suddenly got up and left without explanation?
And if he thought it was important we know, why not leave some kind of thought/comment on what has been said??
In general I would agree and I try to avoid doing so, if possible.
Sorry for the double post. Don't know how that happened.
Does anyone post in any other thread saying they're leaving for 15 minutes!? This is what I mean by the difference between spam, and chat. I agree, I don't think guidelines as such would help much, but perhaps just letting people know the general tone of the thread more clearly?
Mag: Don't remember much at all of last night do you?
Me: put simply.... No
Mag: From what I put together of your late night drunken ramblings? Vodka, 3 girls, and then we played tic-tac-toe and slapped each other around.
Me: put simply.... No
Mag: From what I put together of your late night drunken ramblings? Vodka, 3 girls, and then we played tic-tac-toe and slapped each other around.
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ch85us2001
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Im back.Im sorry if I offended you but I agree with ravager that I would be rather angry if someone got up and left and I was talking to a blank wall for five minutes.
I was hoping this would blow over while I was gone.
I was hoping this would blow over while I was gone.
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This, too me, is kind of silly. Now, these are my own thoughts, so if you have a problem with it, don't be a friggin' jerk and make a big scene about it; just pm me about it, or talk to me on aim.
Yeah, I don't post much in the HC, and I almost never check back to see what people have posted, but I've always seen the HC as a place where you can just post and have fun. SYM already has a set of forum-specific rules that people are supposed to abide by. Why then, make a bunch of rules for a specific thread, when the forum it is in already had a set of rules and guidelines? Yeah, sometimes the reason why I don't post in the HC is simply because I don't really care about some of the stuff you guys talk about, but I'm not going to go running up to any of the mods and demanding they set rules up for the Hc about what you can talk about, you know?
I admit, SOME rules are okay. Like the rules for the forum. But if you decide that every thread needs a set of rules of its own, it just gets annoying. And tedious. Did I mention annoying? Yeah, I can see why the two of you want a set of HC- specific rules, but in my opinion, you might just be scaring off more people than bringing in. Honestly, how many people are going to want to go to a thread that has its own set of rules alongside those of the forums?
Now, that all being said, I will try and follow the rules if you set them (or else run off screaming, and not come back for a really long time).
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While you can tell whether someone is here or not, simply by seeing whether they are logged in or out (unless it is hidden) you cannot tell how long for. In this case it can be worth knowing how long someone may be away. It may help you decide whether you wish to stay longer in order to talk to that person later.
There is a time and place for guidelines and rules, giles. If you don't like this then perhaps another thread should be started for people who are more inclined like yourself.
There is a time and place for guidelines and rules, giles. If you don't like this then perhaps another thread should be started for people who are more inclined like yourself.
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I think we all, myself included should get more opinions before we fly off the hook again. This is getting overblown.
Also they could just not log off. Thats what I do usually.
Also they could just not log off. Thats what I do usually.
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Also they could just not log off. Thats what I do usually.
I believe if someone is going for a long time, they should probably logoff, but as I said this can be hidden quite easily, so it makes no difference in that particular case.
Besides, the guidelines that giles is suggesting would be quite complex in operation. People would need to wait for specific replies before they could repost. Who would really understand and accept such rules?
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This thread WAS started by people more inclined like myself thankyou.Ravager wrote: If you don't like this then perhaps another thread should be started for people who are more inclined like yourself.
And I haven't suggested any guidelines yet.Besides, the guidelines that giles is suggesting would be quite complex in operation.
Mag: Don't remember much at all of last night do you?
Me: put simply.... No
Mag: From what I put together of your late night drunken ramblings? Vodka, 3 girls, and then we played tic-tac-toe and slapped each other around.
Me: put simply.... No
Mag: From what I put together of your late night drunken ramblings? Vodka, 3 girls, and then we played tic-tac-toe and slapped each other around.
[QUOTE=Ravager]Yes you have. Pehaps not guidelines per se, but your vision of what the HC should be. Which is obviously not agreed upon by everyone concerned.[/QUOTE]
I've prjected what the HC WAS, not what it should be. I'm not trying to change anything hugely, just instead of several very short posts, try and consolidate them into less, longer ones, and if you want to pass the time of day with another individual, resort to IMing? Thats all I'd suggest. And I'll agree, it's not for me to say, but it would make it easier for you guys as well, surely?
I've prjected what the HC WAS, not what it should be. I'm not trying to change anything hugely, just instead of several very short posts, try and consolidate them into less, longer ones, and if you want to pass the time of day with another individual, resort to IMing? Thats all I'd suggest. And I'll agree, it's not for me to say, but it would make it easier for you guys as well, surely?
Mag: Don't remember much at all of last night do you?
Me: put simply.... No
Mag: From what I put together of your late night drunken ramblings? Vodka, 3 girls, and then we played tic-tac-toe and slapped each other around.
Me: put simply.... No
Mag: From what I put together of your late night drunken ramblings? Vodka, 3 girls, and then we played tic-tac-toe and slapped each other around.
As the unnofficial drunken heathen substitute head of the citadel I must say
Ears!
Carry on with your pointless nonsense. "You can do whatever you want to me."
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What WBG said
Honestly though, it seems like you guys are trying to revive the "glory days" and are picking apart posts made by new members who hasn't been here long, how should they know how it "used to be"?
Because you see, this is what happens to a web based forum, some people leave, and new ones come. And can we really expect all new members to read up on a 13 000+ post thread to "find out how it should be?
SYM is full of RP threads, debates thread, music threads, and many other types. The thing that is so appealing with the citadel is that it is all those things and more, everything and nothing in particular. It's just a place to come and post ideas, stories, how your day was etc.. It has always been a nice and friendly community.
EDIT: @ Maggy; read the newest posts, this is important stuff
Honestly though, it seems like you guys are trying to revive the "glory days" and are picking apart posts made by new members who hasn't been here long, how should they know how it "used to be"?
Because you see, this is what happens to a web based forum, some people leave, and new ones come. And can we really expect all new members to read up on a 13 000+ post thread to "find out how it should be?
SYM is full of RP threads, debates thread, music threads, and many other types. The thing that is so appealing with the citadel is that it is all those things and more, everything and nothing in particular. It's just a place to come and post ideas, stories, how your day was etc.. It has always been a nice and friendly community.
EDIT: @ Maggy; read the newest posts, this is important stuff
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The HC can be seen as a combination of other threads started on multiple topics, allowing for many different viewpoints. I remember when I first looked at this, how overwhelmingly large it appeared and I can say from personal experience, there is no way someone is going to get a single view on the appearance of the HC. Every new member brings something different to the forum facilitating change, which is how it should be. Otherwise it becomes stifling and you lose much of what makes the HC as it is.
[QUOTE=Ravager]The HC can be seen as a combination of other threads started on multiple topics, allowing for many different viewpoints. I remember when I first looked at this, how overwhelmingly large it appeared and I can say from personal experience, there is no way someone is going to get a single view on the appearance of the HC. Every new member brings something different to the forum facilitating change, which is how it should be. Otherwise it becomes stifling and you lose much of what makes the HC as it is.[/QUOTE]
I'm swinging round to what you're saying, but what I really want to avoid, is simply a whole page of two members, posting a couple of words at a time, which could be conducted more simply, and effectrively on AIM/MSN/whatever. Do you not see my point? I agree strongly to the all threads rolled into one, and it'd be great to get that, combined with the cameraderie of the old days. I think longer posts help achieve this, as they combine joking, and information. We had a good balance quite soon after magrus started posting here, but of late, alot has become quite droll, and senseless, in my opinion?
Am I expressing myself clearly?
I'm swinging round to what you're saying, but what I really want to avoid, is simply a whole page of two members, posting a couple of words at a time, which could be conducted more simply, and effectrively on AIM/MSN/whatever. Do you not see my point? I agree strongly to the all threads rolled into one, and it'd be great to get that, combined with the cameraderie of the old days. I think longer posts help achieve this, as they combine joking, and information. We had a good balance quite soon after magrus started posting here, but of late, alot has become quite droll, and senseless, in my opinion?
Am I expressing myself clearly?
Mag: Don't remember much at all of last night do you?
Me: put simply.... No
Mag: From what I put together of your late night drunken ramblings? Vodka, 3 girls, and then we played tic-tac-toe and slapped each other around.
Me: put simply.... No
Mag: From what I put together of your late night drunken ramblings? Vodka, 3 girls, and then we played tic-tac-toe and slapped each other around.
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Rav:I know.
Sure, the HC was a certain way when it was first started. Yeah, they probably didn't spam as much as we do now. But things change. As Rav said, old members left, and new members came. Just because the older members didn't spam as much doesn't mean we have to be the same way now. Yeah, there are times when alot of spam is too much, but plenty of times we just spam for the fun of it. There's nothing wrong with that. IMO, you take quite a bit of fun out of a thread that was origionally started with fun (and spam?) in mind when you put a limit on how much a person can spam.
Sure, the HC was a certain way when it was first started. Yeah, they probably didn't spam as much as we do now. But things change. As Rav said, old members left, and new members came. Just because the older members didn't spam as much doesn't mean we have to be the same way now. Yeah, there are times when alot of spam is too much, but plenty of times we just spam for the fun of it. There's nothing wrong with that. IMO, you take quite a bit of fun out of a thread that was origionally started with fun (and spam?) in mind when you put a limit on how much a person can spam.
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This is a vicious circle. Two people post a lot, 'scaring' others away, because they feel they can't integrate, however this would change if others joined in.
What really needs to be made clear is that others are welcome to join in any time or ask for some kind of summary of what's going on, so they feel they can join in.
The kind of camaraderie you're looking for isn't going to spontaneously appear anyway, it totally depends on who's around and what there is to talk about.
What really needs to be made clear is that others are welcome to join in any time or ask for some kind of summary of what's going on, so they feel they can join in.
The kind of camaraderie you're looking for isn't going to spontaneously appear anyway, it totally depends on who's around and what there is to talk about.