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Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:34 pm

[QUOTE=Locke Da'averan]in some obscure way i twisted the scale mail into a shield

[/QUOTE]

You probably mixed up the shield proficiency feat and the equipment

The difference between being able to use a shield and owning one

@Kip, do you mean Fighter, or is the Warrior class separate from that (and/or Barbarian)

And NWN is a terrible adaptation of D&D rules apparently

Hill-Shatar · Post by **Hill-Shatar** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:36 pm

Im not rerolling, my int and wis are high enough for me... especially since I have a feeling Ill be questing on my own while the two of you go off together. I am never on with yoiu two.

So, its 4d6 roll times 4 tims int bonus for skills... right?

That makes the max dice roll 24 and min 4... or am I all screwed again?

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:38 pm

You roll the 4 dies, and take away the die with the lowest value, just adding the rest. Most of the time you'll end up with higher values

Hill-Shatar · Post by **Hill-Shatar** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:39 pm

ah.

Well Im not rerolling.

I rather hate the fact that my strength is the worst of ym charatcer...

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:41 pm

Kip intends a merchant type character to travel with the party anyway, you shouldn't end up stuck with plate armour encumbering you, which is just to sell anyway.

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:43 pm

[QUOTE=Ravager]
And NWN is a terrible adaptation of D&D rules apparently

[/QUOTE]
only if you consider a +12 katana an overkill

Hill-Shatar · Post by **Hill-Shatar** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:43 pm

GA!

the thread is going serious again! the SF is NOT supposed to do that. Post farms arent supposed to have topics!

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:45 pm

Locke Da'averan wrote:only if you consider a +12 katana an overkill

I meant the rules not the items.

Though the items definitely apply too.

Some of the feats and stats especially stuff from from HotU are completely different to the ruleset.

the SF is NOT supposed to do that. Post farms arent supposed to have topics!

I came up with most of the principle for the SF- nothing against the odd serious topic

Kipi · Post by **Kipi** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:45 pm

Ravager wrote:Nice

Alignment should be True Neutral.

Yes, it's the same. Both are correct AFAIK

Didn't know there were that many Craft skills

Neither did I

But it actually make sense

How do you work out Initiative? 7 seems high for lvl 1

Good point, looked the wrong number to it. It should be 3 (same as DEX modifier)

Oh, and the warrior = fighter. Accidentaly used the warrior -word.
And NPC is supposed to be char that knows a bit of different things. That's why crafts, some stealth and so on.

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:50 pm

Basic guideline for character sheets should be as folows:

Name, Race Sex
Level + Class

HP

Str
Dex
Con
Int
Wis
Cha

Initiative
Base Attack Bonus
Attack
Full Attack
AC

Fort
Ref
Wis

Skills (+/- bonuses included)

Feats

Equipment

I think you have all that, but it's just a guideline for others.

[QUOTE=Kipi]And NPC is supposed to be char that knows a bit of different things. That's why crafts, some stealth and so on.[/QUOTE]

*nods* Good idea

. Although technically players wouldn't knew limits of capabilities in-game.

Hill-Shatar · Post by **Hill-Shatar** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:50 pm

I think that Ill go back to quietly lurking and wait for someone on the HC to save me...

Read the 4th SYM awards...

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:51 pm

Found an SYM dictionary thread yet?

Kipi · Post by **Kipi** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:52 pm

[QUOTE=Ravager]Basic guideline for character sheets should be as folows:

Name, Race Sex
Level + Class

HP

Str
Dex
Con
Int
Wis
Cha

Initiative
Base Attack Bonus
Attack
Full Attack
AC

Fort
Ref
Wis

Skills (+/- bonuses included)

Feats

Equipment

I think you have all that, but it's just a guideline for others.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's right. But since the story is going to concentrate around NPC, I thought to post every detail here.

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:54 pm

well the feats aren't that impressive on epic levels(considering that about 1-5%or less in forgotten realms) achieve lvl above 20 etc.. but the equipment... for christ sake, a belt that makes you a fire casting arch mage

, i'm able to solo a dragolich without breaking a sweat etc.. and that shouldn't be possible in any D&D

Hill-Shatar · Post by **Hill-Shatar** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:54 pm

Found an SYM dictionary thread yet?

I read both of those when I was a newbie.

I am no longer a newbie... I refer to myself as a semi-noob.

Unless anyone here wants to call me something better?

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:54 pm

Okay. Good to know that stuff.

well the feats aren't that impressive on epic levels(considering that about 1-5%or less in forgotten realms) achieve lvl above 20 etc.. but the equipment... for christ sake, a belt that makes you a fire casting arch mage , i'm able to solo a dragolich without breaking a sweat etc.. and that shouldn't be possible in any D&D

That kind of thing is easy to ignore though. Just leave out the really high level equipment (unless you get to the really high levels). It's the underpinning stuff though, the stats, the rolls and classes that kind of thing.
NWN compensates for the lack of a party. Seriously a dracolich with two people- how high level should you be?

Especially if you have to fight 4/5 incarnations of it.

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:57 pm

[QUOTE=hill1]
Unless anyone here wants to call me something better?

[/QUOTE]

Noober

@rav: about elminster lvl

i'm level 27 or so in NWN and if you forget the part about the game being boring as hell, a fighter(24lvl), barbarian(1lvl), weapon master(2lvl) shouldn't be able to even put a dent on a dragolich, and i kick it's ass six ways from sunday..

IMO the game is a blasphemy against the tough mobs D&D has.. i wonder when you get to kill leviathan or a giant turtle( the one's that carry islands on their backs..

) the turtles have about a minimum of 50,000 hp

kill that with your lvl 1 fighter

Hill-Shatar · Post by **Hill-Shatar** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:00 pm

[QUOTE=Locke Da'averan]Noober

[/QUOTE]

Oh, goody, a new name for me.

Lupus... Lupioan... damn it, someone already has Zedd...

Locke Da'averan · Post by **Locke Da'averan** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:02 pm

[QUOTE=hill1]Oh, goody, a new name for me.

Lupus... Lupioan... damn it, someone already has Zedd...

[/QUOTE]

how about spamspasm?

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:04 pm

[QUOTE=Locke Da'averan]IMO the game is a blasphemy against the tough mobs D&D has.. i wonder when you get to kill leviathan or a giant turtle( the one's that carry islands on their backs..

) the turtles have about a minimum of 50,000 hp

kill that with your lvl 1 fighter

[/QUOTE]

Something bigger and tougher than a Dragon Turtle then? Yes, there really is such a thing

.
So you need a ridiculously huge +20 greatsword +10d6 fire damage just to make a dent?

Elspamo?
Or Elspamono.

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