Two bards n` a fighter?

Punkatt · Post by **Punkatt** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:57 pm

Good idea or the worst I could come up with?
Picking up haerdalis early on, and I`ve never played with him and then perhaps Keldorn or small evil fighter guy in the copper coronet. this should make sure that I`ve got some spellcasting, some thiefing? and a fighter....
Thought was to send fighter in for the blast while my bards fire away, perhaps going bow with heardalis and sling with my main and finaly crossbow with keldorn or the other guy.
IF yes... then what wepons should I go for... It seems like I should go Keldorn due carsomyr and make Haerdalis use shorts-swords and flails (Cuttthroat `N FoA) and go Hammers/ XXX longswords with my main. GO GO GO I aint got all night

Punkatt · Post by **Punkatt** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:43 pm

First contradiction

First of all.... No bloody thiefing skills.... therefore I ran dead before i even left chapter one

Second.... ehh, havent got that far yet....
To the question everyone asks....
Whats the most eligible character? Basics.... Female, Good, Archer, Spells, Thief. This leads me to Ranger/Thief.... Agree or should I do something else?

Damnit again.... You cant do that multiclass unless you go for stalker but that leaves out most of the good thieving abilities.
So a mazzy character then... Fighter thief with a bow? I was trying to avoid this because of my earlier party but it seems like I dont have any choice.....
seems like Main: F/T Sling and dualwield as been explained earlier
Second: Haer`dalis same but shorts and flails
Third: Keldorn tank Carso and crossbows

Sytze · Post by **Sytze** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:48 pm

Well, if you're in a hurry:
You: Longswords and/or Katana's if you want melee. Short Bow (Tugan) if you want to go ranged.
Dalis: Shortswords and/or Katana's/Longswords. This basically depends on the weapons you're using. If you are using Celestial Fury and Dak'kon's Zerth Blade, then Dalis might want to carry longswords, such as The Equalizer, Daystar or Blackrazor.
Keldorn: Shouldn't be too hard a decision. Two-handedsword. Starting with the one he's carrying when you meet him, and Carsomyr later on.
Korgan: Axes, of course. Give his next proficiencies to Two-weapon fighting, or War Hammers.

Punkatt · Post by **Punkatt** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:55 pm

Damn IT!

This new one doesnt work neither. Not enough magepower....
Is there any tool that would allow you to create a whole new party to begin with?

I dont like it but im cathing up....There`s going to be a four people party....
Or I could go thief and get 100 in find/open then dual class to Bard, since it`s enough...with 100/100 or atleast so I`ve heard

Sytze · Post by **Sytze** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:59 pm

A reply to your second post:

Cliché on. You can finish the game with any party. Cliché off.

If I were you, I'd get a very basic party. Meaning: two mages, two fighters, one thief, and one druid/cleric. Multiclasses help you cover this more easily if you want a small party, but prepare for a slightly difficult time early on.

Two mages: You and Dalis.
Two fighters: Korgan and Keldorn. You could even classify Dalis as a fighter, or yourself when you prefer going tank-style with your bard, but I guess that's not your intention.
One thief: How about Yoshimo until Immie returns?
One cleric: Well, Keldorn covers a small basis of cleric spells. You could finish the game easily without a cleric. Actually, thieves and mages are needed the most IMO. Fighters and clerics to a lesser degree. I always take one character of every class with me, though. Just so I have a wide range of spells and tactics available.

Punkatt · Post by **Punkatt** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:05 pm

Decraved points

The thing is that I dont want to play the average party with 4-6 players.
I want to play with 1-3 players since I havent done that before....

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:15 pm

What about a Mage, Cleric and Fighter. Maybe even start the Mage as a Thief and dual to Mage. That covers a lot of bases.
The kind of roles that Korgan, Imoen/Nalia and Anomen fill. Or you could have Aerie, in a smaller member party she will advance higher in levels quicker and she fits Cleric as well as Mage.

Start the game into multiplayer mode, then you can create an entire party.

Sytze · Post by **Sytze** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:30 pm

A three-member party? Then why didn't you say so?

I advice you to go multiclass in that case. For example:
You: Bard, Jan: Thief/Mage, Jaheira: Fighter/Druid. All the basics are covered here.

There are a lot of options for a three-member party available. You just need to decide which NPC's you want to take along and, consequently, base your own class on that decision. Aerie, Anomen, Imoen, Jan and Jaheira are NPC's with abilities from two classes and thus make excellent choices for a small party.

If you either make your decision on the class you want to play, or the NPC's you want to take along, we might be able to give you better advice. Changing your mind every minute isn't helping us much either.

Coot · Post by **Coot** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:09 am

In addition to Sytze: maybe you could have Anomen instead of Jaheira. There's a lot of undead in SoA and Anomen can kick buttocks at least as well as Jaheira.

Rhûn · Post by **Rhûn** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:33 am

I'd recommend Jaheira over Anomen because the high level druid spells are quite something, and she's nowhere near as annoying as Ego Squire. Add to that Harper's Pin, her raise dead, etc. and she really is every bit as useful, and more. Anomen is perhaps the better warrior, but can anyone say 'Iron Skins'? I'd pick Jaheira over Anomen every time.

Punkatt · Post by **Punkatt** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:51 am

Dang IT!

I`ve decided to go with
1. Bard: Donnie Highstrung ( Daughter of Kael Highstrung recently seen in the underdark with an Elf)
Reason: Wanted to play bard a nothing else
2. Druid/Fighter: Dynaheir
Reason: Never played with her and since most people seem to think she rules then Im all for it.
3. Bard: Haer`dalis
Reason: Never played with him neither so hopefully it`ll be a nice experience.
4. Thief/Illusionist: Jan
Reason: I need a thief and I dont like Imoen nor traitors, and Nalia is just out of the question.
5. Inquisitor: Kheldorn
Reason: Since I already have four characters I can just as well brake my pattern right of and go for a fifth guy.

Strategy: Use invisibility with jan on Kheldorn he`ll run up to the enemies and the rest of my team blast away with all they got, when they come for me I make Kheldorn, Jaheira and maby Haer`dalis stand in the way while the rest continue to blast away.

Summary: Death to all defilers of fearun

Story: Make all the open quests possible then run through underdark and head for the End and as quickly as possible enter the throne of bhaal.

Berethor · Post by **Berethor** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:35 am

Sounds like a good party. I tried to Solo a bard out of Irenicus's dungeon but i couldnt open a locked chest because they are so weak.

but if you decide to go with a bard i say good luck

Coot · Post by **Coot** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:59 am

[QUOTE=Rhûn]I'd pick Jaheira over Anomen every time.[/QUOTE]I'm not downplaying Jaheira. She's actually one of my favorite npc's, roleplayingwise. And she's not only powerful, but very versatile as well.

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:15 am

[QUOTE=Punkatt]
Is there any tool that would allow you to create a whole new party to begin with?

[/QUOTE]

If you go in through the multi-player manner of playing the game, you can create an all original party (or as much of one you want). However, the game is more fun with Bioware NPCs, in my opinion.

Raven_Song · Post by **Raven_Song** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:09 pm

I`ve decided to go with
1. Bard: Donnie Highstrung ( Daughter of Kael Highstrung recently seen in the underdark with an Elf)
Reason: Wanted to play bard a nothing else
2. Druid/Fighter: Dynaheir
Reason: Never played with her and since most people seem to think she rules then Im all for it.
3. Bard: Haer`dalis
Reason: Never played with him neither so hopefully it`ll be a nice experience.
4. Thief/Illusionist: Jan
Reason: I need a thief and I dont like Imoen nor traitors, and Nalia is just out of the question.
5. Inquisitor: Kheldorn
Reason: Since I already have four characters I can just as well brake my pattern right of and go for a fifth guy.

I always have the most fun when playing bards.

Have you got the Gibberlings 3 Song and Silence mod installed?
If you're playing a bard you definetly should. (It adds a new store and improves some of the kits)

1. Is your Pc kitted? if not give the new and improved Jester kit a try. I did and it is now my favourite bard kit!

2. People often claim Jaheira rules because they view her through rose tinted glasses having for whatever reason hauled her carcass through the first game (in which she wasn't great). Or they despise Anomen's arrogent personality. Overall I've always found Anomen the more useful character as clerics have better healing spells than druids and can turn undead (useful in this game) It all depends on which you find more irritating the arrogant egotism of Anomen or Jaheira's relentless nagging and condescending attitude. (Of course you can also romance Jaheira if your so inclined)

Dynaheir's dead and although she was highly strung she never quite reached Jaheira's levels of nagging.

3. Probably one of the most difficult characters to use effectively. I recomend reading the NPC useage guide at Sorcerer's Place for some tips, it's not gospel but it helped.

Link: http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/index_tips.php

4.

Jan's great (and I'm not the only one who hates Imoen (yay!))

5. And with two bards, Jan and Jaheira you'll need a good tank

On a side note you'll get the most out of Keldorn interaction wise if you take Anomen over Jaheira but again its a matter of how much you enjoy inter-party banter (which I hope you do given your taking Jan)

Berethor · Post by **Berethor** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:57 pm

Maybe you could get some Mods.

There are many mage/sorcerer ones, some fighters, a easily romanceable paladin even though she is hard to understand, and many more.

they could get you through most situations, and they all have dialogues, except for valen who isnt conversation heavy.

look around the internet if ya want.

some of the females have a thing where you can talk to them and flirt or just talk. I prefer the hard-to-understand searilith

i played with a blade until the astral prison and then i was screwed but i am only good with thieves and paladins