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[QUOTE=Athena]Definition: Octoberfest is a time of music and merrymaking featuring beer, sausage and sauerkraut. German Octoberfests, a tradition in Munich and the Bavarian region of German was introduced to North America in the 1960s.

Originally Octoberfest celebrated the harves of hops, which the Germans brew much of their beer.[/QUOTE]

Sounds nice.....good times.

[Ravager]

@Athena, that's what I thought it might be. With lederhosen in that tradition I think.

@slade, chu left (without saying bye ). Just look to see if the little green light is on next to his name (like it is with yours) to see if he's around.

[Fiona]

Sounds great. Why so late to the US. There were Germans there before that, surely ?

[Athena]

Here Goes... The History of Oktoberfest

Old World Oktoberfest German Originations

In 1810, when Princess Therese was married to the Bavarian Crown Prince Ludwig, the festival began as a wedding celebration. In a meadow adjacent to Munich, as part of the wedding entertainment, a horse race was staged for 40,000 enthusiasts from all over Bavaria. The purpose of the celebration was two-fold:
First, to give thanks to the Lord for the past years crops and other blessings.

Second, to share in the joy of the occasion with the family in the spirit of true love.
Such was the success of the party given after the wedding that the meadow was named the Theresien-Wiese in honor of the princess. Even today, the meadow retains its name and is kept as a large open clearing within the heart of a city grown far beyond it. Today, the festival comes alive at noon on opening when, as the clock of St. Paul's Church in Munich strikes 12 noon, the Burgermeister enters one of the beer tents and taps the first cask and quaffs the first stein during a 12 canon salute. One of the highlights of the fest is the Trachtenfest parade, one in which thousands of participants from all over Germany dress in their native costume. Bands, floats and decorated beer wagons drawn by beautiful horses wind their way through the downtown streets and out to the Wies'n, short for festival grounds. While Munich remains the original home for Oktoberfest, La Crosse, Wisconsin has become the home of Oktoberfest, USA.



History of Oktoberfest USA - La Crosse, Wisconsin

Approximately 5,000 miles and over 150 years of history provide the only major differences between La Crosse, Wisconsin and Munich, Germany during early October each year. The first few days of the tenth month in both Munich and La Crosse are filled with "merrymaking" and a carnival atmosphere known in both cities as Oktoberfest.

One of the achievements which helped La Crosse gain a 1961 All-American City Award, Oktoberfest, USA, is one of the few authentic Old World folk festivals held annually in the United States. Each year, numerous local industries, civic and fraternal groups plus hundreds of area residents, working on a voluntary basis, combine their efforts with those sponsoring La Crosse Festivals, Inc., in developing and presenting the annual autumn festival.



Origins Of Oktoberfest In La Crosse

The first Oktoberfest, USA, was held on October 13, 14, and 15, 1961...but the planning began many months before. In early 1960, civic leaders had agreed that La Crosse needed a community wide activity of some sort. The city had been without such an event since 1921. Because that earlier celebration had been a winter carnival, many of the leaders were in favor of renewing this idea as a La Crosse tradition.

However, there were problems involved with holding a winter event on the same dates each year. First, as we all know, it is virtually impossible to predict the winter weather in Wisconsin from day to day, much less a year in advance. Second, assuming the worst, the costs of providing artificial ice and snow were prohibitive. Finally, there were several winter carnivals in the area, including the internationally known St. Paul Carnival. The proximity of Minneapolis and its highly successful summer festival, Aquatennial, tended to rule out a similar event. Although neither festival was completely dismissed, it was agreed upon that a fall celebration was the best answer.

During the fall of 1960, several officials of the La Crosse based G. Heileman Brewing Company were also discussing an annual promotion. News of these discussions spread through the firm, eventually reaching the malt house, where two of the employees of German origin suggested an autumn festival similar to the Oktoberfest held annually in Munich. The idea was quickly accepted, for two primary reasons:
October is the time of color, as the leaves change from summer green to the brilliant fall colors.

Early October usually marks the end of the harvest and the preparation for winter. It was believed that a festival at this time would provide an ideal "relief valve."
As the idea for an Oktoberfest grew, it quickly became apparent that there would be much more to do than could be handled by a single firm. It was agreed that the Oktoberfest should be a completely civic enterprise. Early in 1961, brewery officials contacted the La Crosse Chamber of Commerce and proposed the idea to chamber members. It was accepted, and both agreed that the chamber would act as the sponsoring organization.

An Oktoberfest Committee was established to oversee the proposed annual celebration. This committee set forth five primary objectives for the fall festival:
to promote local pride in La Crosse
to obtain national publicity for La Crosse
to promote "tourism" to La Crosse and the Coulee Region
to involve a large number of people
to break even financially, while remaining a non-profit organization
The almost unbelievable growth of Oktoberfest, USA, since that first year has made reality of all the objectives. It was conceived as a holiday for the community and accepted by the community on those terms. In 1962, the name "Oktoberfest" was registered with the State of Wisconsin. In 1963, "Oktoberfest, USA" was registered and listed as a trademark with the federal government. In 1965, the newly-formed La Crosse Festivals, Inc., purchased the assets of Oktoberfest from the Chamber of Commerce and became the sponsoring organization.

For forty-one years, this blending of the German Oktoberfest with Americanized style has been a happy one. Parades, pageantry, royalty, brew, bratwurst, and world famous entertainment has made La Crosse's very own Oktoberfest one of the finest in the nation.

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[QUOTE=Fiona]Sounds great. Why so late to the US. There were Germans there before that, surely ?[/QUOTE]

I wonder if the World Wars had any thing to do with it....America will discriminate against anything if your enemy is doing it.

.....Or it could be whats above this post.

[Athena]

yEAh

[Fiona]

@ Athena. Thanks for that. It was very interesting. Have a wonderful Octoberfest

[Ravager]

Yes, have a good traditional German drinking festival.

[Athena]

Ah, you're welcome. You have a wonderous Oktoberfest as well.

[slade]

Have a great Octoberfest for all of us!

Hey Rav were did you go??

[slade]

And the crickets are left chirping.......

[Ravager]

[QUOTE=slade]Hey Rav were did you go??[/QUOTE]

Sorry, just been busy. Still am. Looking at websites for something D&D connected. Not having much luck though.

[Hill-Shatar]

Your still up? Awating my arrival?

what do you expect if you did... I do work, and there was no meeting to day, so instead of lurking while typing I instead did some science...

[slade]

[QUOTE=Ravager]Sorry, just been busy. Still am. Looking at websites for something D&D connected. Not having much luck though.[/QUOTE]

Oh I see...

[Hill-Shatar]

Holy spam, you people are crazy...

OVER 300 PAGES!

[Ravager]

Yeah, I'm still up and I should probably go seeing as I have to get up before 9AM
Won't be around that much longer though.

And no, I'm not still here because I was waiting for you, more that I'm looking for details on the FR deity The Red Knight. Damned obscure.

OVER 300 PAGES!

Where?

[slade]

[QUOTE=Ravager]Yeah, I'm still up and I should probably go seeing as I have to get up before 9AM
Won't be around that much longer though.

And no, I'm not still here because I was waiting for you, more that I'm looking for details on the FR deity The Red Knight. Damned obscure.



Where?[/QUOTE]

Is that Red Knight in reference to your D&D game?

[Ravager]

Yeah, it's the name of a goddess. My character is a Paladin and they get spells from a god/goddess, I'm trying to look up details on this one.

Right, it's 1AM here. Time I was going. Cya later.

[slade]

Do you have to know Forgotten Realms(dumb question I know) a lot to play the game........if so where could I get the full information?

[Hill-Shatar]

Bye, Rav, and bye Slade, Im going too, I guess.

I meant 300 posts, not pages.