improved inv. + backstab

NeKr0mAnCeR · Post by **NeKr0mAnCeR** » Sat Aug 04, 2001 5:47 am

can i still backstab when im partialy invisible ??(major cheese)

Vehemence · Post by **Vehemence** » Sat Aug 04, 2001 6:25 am

No.

You are partially visible which means enemies will see you. Thus ruining the possibility of sneaking up behind them again.

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Sat Aug 04, 2001 1:04 pm

*** Cheese Alert ***

If you cast Mislead, you can backstab as often as you like.

NeKr0mAnCeR · Post by **NeKr0mAnCeR** » Sat Aug 04, 2001 1:25 pm

nice

ill make a party of 3 guys:

mage/thief (multi)
assassin/mage (dual)
assassin/mage (dual)

the cheese loving criminals!

LMAO

]RiPPeR[ · Post by **]RiPPeR[** » Sat Aug 04, 2001 4:00 pm

Originally posted by Xyx:
*** Cheese Alert ***

If you cast Mislead, you can backstab as often as you like.

thanks for the tip, have you tested this?, i will make an assassin/mage now

Fezek · Post by **Fezek** » Sat Aug 04, 2001 4:20 pm

Originally posted by NeKr0mAnCeR:
nice

ill make a party of 3 guys:

mage/thief (multi)
assassin/mage (dual)
assassin/mage (dual)

the cheese loving criminals! LMAO

ROFLMAO

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Sun Aug 05, 2001 1:38 am

I tried with Nalia and it seemed to work fine. For extra cheese, send the decoys out of the bad guys' sight.

jeremiah · Post by **jeremiah** » Sun Aug 05, 2001 3:45 pm

Does Shadow Door work the same way?

Quark · Post by **Quark** » Sun Aug 05, 2001 4:57 pm

Doubt it. After a backstab attack, the engine checks to make sure something becomes 'visible'.

Since the mislead dummy is already 'visible' it doesn't change the main character.

]RiPPeR[ · Post by **]RiPPeR[** » Mon Aug 06, 2001 1:44 am

Originally posted by Xyx:
I tried with Nalia and it seemed to work fine. For extra cheese, send the decoys out of the bad guys' sight.

it would be good to have a cloak or spell of non-detection equiped, with it you can kill anythting that does not see invisible creatures(like dragons)

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Mon Aug 06, 2001 3:17 am

Originally posted by jeremiah:
Does Shadow Door work the same way?

Nah... Shadow Door gives you invisible and improved invisible status. After you attack (backstab), the invisibile status disappears, leaving you with improved invisible status, which is the 'shimmering'. While improved invisible, you can be spotted, but not targeted with spells. You can only backstab while completely unseen (that is, invisible).

Mislead works differently from all the other invisibility spells in that it constantly re-applies invisible status. After the backstab you become improved invisible for an instant, but then regain invisible status again, allowing you to keep on backstabbing.

This is almost definitely Cheese, especially if you send the decoy away. But hey, if Irenicus can do it...