Do you like beer?

Sytze · Post by **Sytze** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:48 am

Then in this case, my objections are crumbling.

Luis Antonio · Post by **Luis Antonio** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:03 am

[QUOTE=C Elegans]@Luis: Denial of yeast, you mean?

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Maybe

People tend to deny their own corruptions but I wont comment further here because It'd become too explicit, and sex is so bad viewed nowadays.

Hehehe, you made me smile, CE.

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:55 pm

Guiness all the way

Phreddie · Post by **Phreddie** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:06 pm

[QUOTE=C Elegans]I am amazed how sensitive the boys in this thread seems to be. Yeast is just yeast, doesn't matter where it comes from, it's just a component for making bear.

If you think it's so horrible to drink bear that has been fermented with the help of yeast that comes from a human vagina, how do you plan to have sex with human girls?[/QUOTE]
Who says we like human females?

I'm sorry i had to say that... Now i will go and sit in my corner.

VonDondu · Post by **VonDondu** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:54 pm

[QUOTE=C Elegans]I am amazed how sensitive the boys in this thread seems to be. Yeast is just yeast, doesn't matter where it comes from, it's just a component for making bear.[/QUOTE]
There are over a thousand different species of yeast or yeast-like organisms in sixty different genera. Each of them is a single-cell fungus, although not all of them reproduce the same way. Brewer’s yeast is one of seven or eight selected strains of Saccharomyces cerevisiae (in dried, pulverized form). "Vaginal yeast" (which is a misnomer, as I explain below) is Candida albicans. If I'm not mistaken, both of these fungi are a type of ascomycetes yeast, and they have about 93% of the same DNA. I can't tell you exactly what their differences are (other than the fact that one inhabits the human body and the other is used to make beer); but I would hardly say they are the "same".

[QUOTE=C Elegans]If you think it's so horrible to drink bear that has been fermented with the help of yeast that comes from a human vagina, how do you plan to have sex with human girls?[/QUOTE]
If you knew that brewer's yeast was grown in sheep dung, would you still drink beer or wine?

I think a better question would be, "If you are repulsed by the thought of swallowing Candida albicans, how can you live with yourself?" Candida albicans populates the mouth, throat, intestinal tract, and genital areas of nearly all humans. Calling it "vaginal yeast" conceals the fact that it populates the entire body in both sexes. Chances are, it's in your mouth and throat right now, even if you're a virgin.

I sympathize with the notion that "I can live with my own yeast, but I don't want to come into contact with other people's yeast," but it's a hopeless cause unless you avoid all contact whatsoever with other humans.

For me, the "gross out" factor of beer made with "vaginal yeast" comes from the feeling that the yeast from the donor's vagina is contaminated or possibly "spoiled" by age (which is irrational but nonetheless uncomfortable). Coming into contact with a vagina (or a package of brewer's yeast) does not seem inherently unpleasant, but the thought of ingesting a substance removed from a vagina weeks earlier (a substance which most people do not understand) is inherently gross to most humans. (To make an analogy, I don't mind tasting or even swallowing my boyfriend's saliva when I kiss him; but I wouldn't touch his saliva if it had been outside of his mouth for a week.) One is "fresh" and the other isn't. Surely the difference is apparent.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:01 pm

@Phreddie: LOL, I am sure females of many other species also have various fungi inhabitating their mucous membranes

VonDondu wrote:If you knew that brewer's yeast was grown in sheep dung, would you still drink beer or wine?

Of course I would, providing it was not dangerous for health and I liked wine or beer. It doesn't matter where a component comes from, the matter is does it taste good or not, and of course if it is toxic or a disease agent.

I think a better question would be, "If you are repulsed by the thought of swallowing Candida albicans, how can you live with yourself?" Candida albicans populates the mouth, throat, intestinal tract, and genital areas of nearly all humans. Calling it "vaginal yeast" conceals the fact that it populates the entire body in both sexes. Chances are, it's in your mouth and throat right now, even if you're a virgin.

My jokes about vaginal yeast was based on the fact that this very yeast was extracted from the woman's vagina. I am quite sure that the people im this thread who expressed repulsion, were repulsed by the origin factor here, not the yeast species factor.

To make an analogy, I don't mind tasting or even swallowing my boyfriend's saliva when I kiss him; but I wouldn't touch his saliva if it had been outside of his mouth for a week.) One is "fresh" and the other isn't. Surely the difference is apparent.

The question of freshness here is in my opinion a health issue. Some biological material will develop unhealthy disease agents if taken from the metabolic cycle in which it orginially appeared. The muscle tissue on your body is not repulsive to me, but if you die this very moment and this muscle tissue is left in room temperature a couple of week, the very same tissue will have become target for various parasites and bacteria that would not be healthy to ingest.

However, the yeast taken from the women's vagina, was obviously made part of a fermenting cycle that does not produce a more unhealthy product than beer produced without a slight addition of candida fungi.

Regarding saliva I don't know what happens to all the enzymes, proteins and bacteria after one week outside of the body. I would guess they degrade. However, the reason I don't eat my husbands saliva except when kissing, is simply because there is no gain - it doesn't contain anything nutritious or taste good as food or beverage.

Luis Antonio · Post by **Luis Antonio** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:50 am

What's wrong with all of that? I think it is far worst not to wash your hands after taking a bus than swallowing saliva or human yeast, due to the simple fact that by not washing your hands you're marrying with the unknown, while kissing, for example, should be done with someone you know a bit more than the average.

I must say: Kisses without tongue are cool. But, with tongue (and therefore more saliva) things get FAR more interesting. Point.

Antharias2k · Post by **Antharias2k** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:46 pm

Actually it depends on the person when it comes to kissing. Some prefer simple. Other's prefer "extravagence." It all depends upon their preferences. People have different parts on their bodies which will drive them crazy when carressing, while others will feel absolutely nothing.

Back to the main point. Why would anybody drink beer? Can anybody explain to me what is so great about it. No offense to beer drinkers.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:53 pm

[QUOTE=Luis Antonio]What's wrong with all of that? I think it is far worst not to wash your hands after taking a bus than swallowing saliva or human yeast[/QUOTE]

This I agree completely with, simply because on the bus, a large number of people have spread their bacteria and viruses around, so statistically, it's much more likely that you will come in contact with a contagious disease agent. Most infections are actually spread from your own hands to eyes and nose. The mucous membranes in your eyes and nose are much more susceptible to infectious agents than the mouth, since the mouth is protected by a vast amount of enzymes in the saliva.

[quote="Antharias]Why would anybody drink beer? Can anybody explain to me what is so great about it. No offense to beer drinkers.[/quote"]

I don't like beer either, but people who do usually likes the taste and many also like to get more or less intoxicated by alcohol.

Antharias2k · Post by **Antharias2k** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:58 pm

After an a certain night, I don't drink that much at all. I suppose that it is true for any alchoholic drink.

myrophine · Post by **myrophine** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:02 pm

I think that things like drinking beer or coffee or for that matter kissing are pretty wordless experiences. Pasting a string of flowery words and adjectives is somehow inadequate.

Nonetheless, we can try to explain.

First off beer is not a universal pleasure so don't feel left out if you can't enjoy it. Give it your best try once in awhile and try different sorts. My step mother hates beer but once I brewed some crazy ginger/honey/hot pepper beer and for another year she was always asking about it.

Also aside from the taste pleasures of beer which you might not be keen on there is some learned behavior too. Example, I do physical labor all day and about when the sun is starting to go down I have a nice cold beer. How relaxing does it get? I think such a pattern of rewarding myself has reinforced itself over the years.

And finally (not to say I have been comprehensive) there is the alcohol factor. We are dealing with a powerful psychoactive substance. If you are used to drinking alcohol in the form of wine you will be drawn to that (in the future). If beer then beer.

Overall I'm for the pleasures of beer and hate rules. But I can't help but observe that alcohol actually blunts and hazes raw experience; in other words its a downer. If you are trying to medicate some negative experience it is even worse unfortunately.

myrophine

Antharias2k · Post by **Antharias2k** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:15 pm

Working in a hotel for 2 years has taught me one thing. If you are down, never drink alchohol. All you do is annoy everybody who is working there and they hate you for it in the end.