Has anyone ever noticed how EVERY SINGLE Sith lord (in this game, or otherwise) has a name which suggests their nature/primary attributes. For example, Vader is latin for "father", which makes perfect sense, since Vader is like, the "Mr. Big" of the current sith. Also, "Nihilus" is a spinoff of "Nihilism" which is when one sees no value in anything, especially religious matters (e.g. Nihilus don't give a crap about the galaxy, he's just hungry for power). "Sidious" is pretty obvious: insidious (just like his war/political strategies) "Traya" should also be pretty obvious, considering Traya's specialty (which I will not reveal to you new playas out there).
Has anyone else noticed this bizare phenomenon? Have you found any other cases I might have missed?
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I seem to recall that as well @fable.
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[QUOTE=fable]Isn't father, "pater," in Latin? Just inquiring.[/QUOTE]
Yep it is. But Alien Newborn is still right, in essence, he just had the wrong language. "Vader" is "father" in Dutch. Darth comes from another language as well, I'm pretty sure. If memory serves, it means "Dark" (hence, "Dark Father"), just don;t ask me which language, because I don't recall.
Oh, and I've noticed the same trend. Some other examples:
Tyrannus: Tyrannical leadership
Maul: What an angry animal does (note Darth Maul pacing back and forth like an animal in it's cage during the duel in Ep 1)
Bane: the "bane" of the jedi
Malak: Malice (?)
Anyhoo, it happens often enough that I'm sure it isn't coincidental. I agree.
Yep it is. But Alien Newborn is still right, in essence, he just had the wrong language. "Vader" is "father" in Dutch. Darth comes from another language as well, I'm pretty sure. If memory serves, it means "Dark" (hence, "Dark Father"), just don;t ask me which language, because I don't recall.
Oh, and I've noticed the same trend. Some other examples:
Tyrannus: Tyrannical leadership
Maul: What an angry animal does (note Darth Maul pacing back and forth like an animal in it's cage during the duel in Ep 1)
Bane: the "bane" of the jedi
Malak: Malice (?)
Anyhoo, it happens often enough that I'm sure it isn't coincidental. I agree.
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I agree with the trend but what about:
Darth Sion- closest i can think of is zion=god and that dont fit
Darth Revan- Revan the Raven he could jsut be another drunk like POe but somehow i doubt it.
ne1 know of ne other names from the eu that follow the trend?
Darth Sion- closest i can think of is zion=god and that dont fit
Darth Revan- Revan the Raven he could jsut be another drunk like POe but somehow i doubt it.
ne1 know of ne other names from the eu that follow the trend?
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i cant remmber who talked about this in what thread, buti know some1 else mentioned that revan had roots in other languages meaning "beginning" and "born again," or, haha, something to that effect. might have been kaja or hill...ha! found it! it was darth zen in the kotor III thread "this is how kotor 3 is going to be:"
Revan's name itself can be broken down to support this LS theory. Everyone putt the thinking cap on for a sec. The prefix "re" is relative to "new" or "again". (As in re-write, where you're writing fresh or again.) The words "a" and "an" as defined even in Biblical time, refers to a beginning. Revan means, "new beginning".
neat stuff! oh, and here's something from wikipedia on sion:
Like most other Sith Lords whose names begin with Darth, Sion's name suggests another word: scion, meaning heir. In this case, heir to his master, Traya, and the legacy of the Sith.
but the whole thing w/ zion might work, too, considering we 1st thought sion was immortal.
Revan's name itself can be broken down to support this LS theory. Everyone putt the thinking cap on for a sec. The prefix "re" is relative to "new" or "again". (As in re-write, where you're writing fresh or again.) The words "a" and "an" as defined even in Biblical time, refers to a beginning. Revan means, "new beginning".
neat stuff! oh, and here's something from wikipedia on sion:
Like most other Sith Lords whose names begin with Darth, Sion's name suggests another word: scion, meaning heir. In this case, heir to his master, Traya, and the legacy of the Sith.
but the whole thing w/ zion might work, too, considering we 1st thought sion was immortal.
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Ok first thing.
Revan like Raven as in the soul stealer because he soul was stolen. Also viewed as a symbol of death. Revan died and they brought him back, presumably a reborn Revan.
Sion not like Zion not like a god.
I just looked this up and here is what I think sion could be:
2. A place or religious community regarded as sacredly devoted to God. (This would be him always wanting to follow Traya and not understanding why he isn't what she wants.)
3. An idealized, harmonious community; utopia. (He may not be ideal but he does posess powers that Sith find admorable. He struggles to prove himself worthy to be The Dark Lord of the Sith, to do this he has to be deemed worthy by his Master Darth Traya.)
About Vader, not meant as father. If you notice in the first star wars movie, the Dark Lord, emperor, was never called cideous(sp?). That name was given later. Vader wasn't decided to be his father until the second and third movies were written. Even then the secret was guarded to GL and very few else. Even 'luke' didn't know about it until right before the scene. Vader was named vader for the first movie. The double entandre was lost until he started having meanings in the names. The entire history came after Vader was named. Also, Darth Vader was supposed to be just Vader when he was good. "Vader used to be a pupil of mine, until he fell to the dark side." (roughly quoted)
I do think that the names in this game are obvious. Traya says how there must always be a Darth Traya, a beTrayer, be it Kreia or the ice queen of Telos (i forget her name).
Ok other than that. I have a few Darth names of my own. I have written a few SW stories that I am still revising before I submit anywhere. My main character was a Sith trained Sith. Who betrays the Dark Lord and becomes a good, albeit, emotional Jedi. Name of Darth Exodus, Exodus as in the book in the bible as in to flee. The Dark Lord, who at one time was ready to die, lives on just to try and turn Exodus back to the dark side. He isn't all powerful but is very dark and strong. His name is Darth Col (or Cole), as in coal; still hot and dark but not brilliantly burning.
Ok first thing.
Revan like Raven as in the soul stealer because he soul was stolen. Also viewed as a symbol of death. Revan died and they brought him back, presumably a reborn Revan.
Sion not like Zion not like a god.
I just looked this up and here is what I think sion could be:
2. A place or religious community regarded as sacredly devoted to God. (This would be him always wanting to follow Traya and not understanding why he isn't what she wants.)
3. An idealized, harmonious community; utopia. (He may not be ideal but he does posess powers that Sith find admorable. He struggles to prove himself worthy to be The Dark Lord of the Sith, to do this he has to be deemed worthy by his Master Darth Traya.)
About Vader, not meant as father. If you notice in the first star wars movie, the Dark Lord, emperor, was never called cideous(sp?). That name was given later. Vader wasn't decided to be his father until the second and third movies were written. Even then the secret was guarded to GL and very few else. Even 'luke' didn't know about it until right before the scene. Vader was named vader for the first movie. The double entandre was lost until he started having meanings in the names. The entire history came after Vader was named. Also, Darth Vader was supposed to be just Vader when he was good. "Vader used to be a pupil of mine, until he fell to the dark side." (roughly quoted)
I do think that the names in this game are obvious. Traya says how there must always be a Darth Traya, a beTrayer, be it Kreia or the ice queen of Telos (i forget her name).
Ok other than that. I have a few Darth names of my own. I have written a few SW stories that I am still revising before I submit anywhere. My main character was a Sith trained Sith. Who betrays the Dark Lord and becomes a good, albeit, emotional Jedi. Name of Darth Exodus, Exodus as in the book in the bible as in to flee. The Dark Lord, who at one time was ready to die, lives on just to try and turn Exodus back to the dark side. He isn't all powerful but is very dark and strong. His name is Darth Col (or Cole), as in coal; still hot and dark but not brilliantly burning.
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Back to the Sion thing...
Personally, I think Sion is a reference to the word "Scion". The following is from dictionary.com:
sci·on ( P )
n.
A descendant or heir.
also ci·on (sn) A detached shoot or twig containing buds from a woody plant, used in grafting.
This suits two ways: First, Sion constantly plays the petulant child to Traya's overbearing/controlling mother. The whole reason he exists seems to be so that he can prove his worth to Traya. Second, and this is a bit of a stretch, but the grafting thing kind of relates to Sion's mottled, patched together appearance and the whole life-from-death thing.
I might be wrong, but that's my theory. What do you guys think?
Personally, I think Sion is a reference to the word "Scion". The following is from dictionary.com:
sci·on ( P )
n.
A descendant or heir.
also ci·on (sn) A detached shoot or twig containing buds from a woody plant, used in grafting.
This suits two ways: First, Sion constantly plays the petulant child to Traya's overbearing/controlling mother. The whole reason he exists seems to be so that he can prove his worth to Traya. Second, and this is a bit of a stretch, but the grafting thing kind of relates to Sion's mottled, patched together appearance and the whole life-from-death thing.
I might be wrong, but that's my theory. What do you guys think?
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That sounds right, since we all know how grafted Sion is (or, more like, was:mischief: ), and I distinctly recall him saying yesterday (after I persuaded him that Traya was just using him) "Perhaps you are right, but there is nothing left for me now but my master."
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Uhhhhhh, actually...... my mom is the one who speaks latin, and I recall her saying something about it like, three years ago :laugh: I guess the only thing that I have going for me is my awesome memory.
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Perhaps, but this is not a german board, but an US based board using english as only official language. Thus that english words/abbriviations might mean something else in other languages aren't really relevant at all.
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[QUOTE=GregtheSleeper]Not to nit-pick but it's Mofa...
Anyway...
Traya - (Be)Traya...?
Naga Sadow - to do with Shadow..?
Freedon Nadd - the sith code mentions 'breaking chains' and 'The force shall free me'...?[/QUOTE]
Alright then think more about externally and destiny the names. Please don't make me have to go looking. In the valley of the Sith Lord: who was who and what was their contribution.
I know one took over for Marka Ragnos, one had a sword, nothing about where the test was and one was the best dualist of his time.
There has to be significance in what they did and how they died. Especially the one with the sword. I think that ever since they had so many Darths they started making significant names for them. I don't know that there was any significance in Vader though.
Anyway...
Traya - (Be)Traya...?
Naga Sadow - to do with Shadow..?
Freedon Nadd - the sith code mentions 'breaking chains' and 'The force shall free me'...?[/QUOTE]
Alright then think more about externally and destiny the names. Please don't make me have to go looking. In the valley of the Sith Lord: who was who and what was their contribution.
I know one took over for Marka Ragnos, one had a sword, nothing about where the test was and one was the best dualist of his time.
There has to be significance in what they did and how they died. Especially the one with the sword. I think that ever since they had so many Darths they started making significant names for them. I don't know that there was any significance in Vader though.
Bao-Dur: I think he wanted us to give up the Genreal to his poorly trained collection of bounty hunters.
Atton: Ah. well that would explain it. Which one do you want?
Bao-Dur: I'll take the stupid one who decided to threaten us rather than shoot us when he had the chance.
Atton: Ah. well that would explain it. Which one do you want?
Bao-Dur: I'll take the stupid one who decided to threaten us rather than shoot us when he had the chance.
[QUOTE=Phreddie]But look at Sidious, his name came around in the time of naming w/ signifigance.. insidious anyone?[/QUOTE]
Yeah... how come he wasn't Sidious in the original trilogy though..? Vader could be per-Vader - similar idea to Sidious - inside the jedi but against them... (EDIT) like sidious and the Republic...
Yeah... how come he wasn't Sidious in the original trilogy though..? Vader could be per-Vader - similar idea to Sidious - inside the jedi but against them... (EDIT) like sidious and the Republic...