Jaheira Romance ANSWERS!!!!! *SPOILERS GALORE!!!!*

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Thu Apr 05, 2001 10:05 am

Ok... I'm forced to reveal small part of 4 part.

I would like to ask all Jaheira's admirers/ CLUAConsole-SK-programing mages (Kevin Dorner , etc.) about one thing :

During all my romances with J. I had "Dawning" bug (eliminated by changing lovetalk).

Here is the sequence of events in my romances in form : lovetalk number, dialog first line /event, conditions

Second meeting with Dermin lovetalk=50, change area
52. "How..how did that last battle...", 0.5 h
After rest J. disappear, first meeting with Terminsel, note blowing in the wind
We rejoin with Jaheira in Harper HQ lovetalk=53 after killing the group of mercenaries.

And now there is the moment whereall problems occur.
I thing that everyone forgot about missing dialogue that first line is :
55. "Is..is this an inconvenient time for us to speak" - from the context I deduced that it is dialogue BEFORE third meeting with Dermin.

57. "Ahh,the dawning our day..."
59. third meeting with Dermin (out of doors)

So maybe there is the solution of this problem

The questions are :
1)Is there anyone that had this dialogue in his game ?

2)If someone had this dialogue in normal way then WHEN and WHERE was it.

3)I would like to ask you if someone has the savegame before and after this dialogue (proper working).

I would be very grateful for emailing it to me.

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Manveru Telkontar, a Proud Member of the Brotherhood of the Woods.

Elen sila Lumenn' Omentielvo

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Thu Apr 05, 2001 1:09 pm

Does anyone remember the thread number about this over at BG Dungeon? I remember reading about the "Dawning of a new day bug..." in it, as well as other common bugs.

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There's nothing a little poison couldn't cure...

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Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Tue Apr 10, 2001 8:41 am

Ok.. I've to correct one my mistake :

Jaheira could be kidnapped by Bodhi when she is after dialogue :

61=lovetalk . "What! What is it you want ?"

so not neccesary when the romance is concluded (lt=70)

Then the JaheiraRomanceActive variable is changed from 1 to 2.

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Tue Apr 10, 2001 9:55 am

If you're in active romance with Jaheira, some of the problems with the Harper plot may be avoided by delaying it.

Here's how:

After bringing the poisoned man to Rylock and agreeing to help Xzar, don't give Xzar the bird until Jaheira's LOVETALK > 25 (she has initiated the dialog "This is a dangerous life we seem to lead..").

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Tue Apr 10, 2001 10:12 am

BTW, i have some difficulties with lovetalk, it appeared it have stickled at 57. Well, not long thinking i set it to 58, all ok, got to 70, but now i have repeating talk about the last night in most inadequate moments

i'm polite, of course and do not show how mad she is

lovetalk is 70, after all

Well, i'm with Kevin's multiromance patch, get tired with lack of further romance with Arie (they here always end with bed, never as in life, when it is only a true beginging

) and never have had Vic in company. All is bearable, i only guess which one Bodhi should try to take

Comments welcomed,
TIA,
L.

Evandarian · Post by **Evandarian** » Sat Apr 14, 2001 10:56 am

Just wondering...
What would be the easiest and simplest way (no Shadowkeeper, just CLUAConsole) to get through the infamous Dawning Our Day bug and other bugz that I will be guaranteed to run into

scully1 · Post by **scully1** » Sat Apr 14, 2001 3:09 pm

Hi, I'm new here

This is actually not Jaheira-related at all, but this seems to be the big romance thread so I figured I'd post here instead of starting another one...Feel free to kick me out if I'm in the wrong place...

Okay -- I'm in an Anomen romance at the moment. In ch. 6 and stalled. The romance storyline is supposed to continue in ch. 6, right? I've attempted to check the progress with the CLUA (is that what you call it? Please bear with; I'm so ignorant about this stuff) and cannot access it for some reason. (Yes, I added Debug Mode=1 and all that.) Anomen did get killed in the mind-flayer dungeon and we raised him again soon after. Does that affect it at all? I do have a save but I'd hate to go all the way through the Underdark again...Or is there some trigger event that I'm missing? Or should I just be patient? Any clue about this would be most appreciated.

Sir Percy · Post by **Sir Percy** » Sat Apr 14, 2001 7:27 pm

Originally posted by Manveru:

2) The Harper plot (where Jaheira gets summoned by the Harpers, ultimately leaves them, and then the ultimate question of her Harper status is determined) is not necessarily part of the romance plot. It is inserted into the overall romance scheme if you have it going, but all that is required is that Jaheira be in your party and you've completed the Xzar/Montaron sub-quest for it to begin.

Personally I don't know what to thing about 2nd statement because I haven't ever found BG2 player that finished Jaheira's romance without doing Harper quests. What is more her romance dialogues indicates that these quests are integral part of the whole romance.

You've obviously misunderstood his statement. He didn't say you can do the romance without them at all, he said you needn't be doing the romance to do the quests.

Personally, there seems to me to be a lot of complaining about Jaheira which doesn't seem justified.

White Rabbit · Post by **White Rabbit** » Sun Apr 15, 2001 12:43 am

Wtf? I just slept with Jehera and yet I havnt seen terminsel for the second time!!!! I WANT MY EXP AND HARPER PIN DAMNIT!! any help would be great.

TheHellion · Post by **TheHellion** » Sun Apr 15, 2001 1:54 am

Originally posted by White Rabbit:
Wtf? I just slept with Jehera and yet I havnt seen terminsel for the second time!!!! I WANT MY EXP AND HARPER PIN DAMNIT!! any help would be great.

Okay, I'm not positive that this will work, but it's worth a try.

I'm not sure that you've got cheats enabled, so I'll go ahead and give you the low-down. You'll need to go into Windows Explorer, and go into your Black Isle\BGII-SoA\ directory. Find a file called Baldur.ini, and open it up with notepad. Under the [Program Options] area, enter a line that says:

Debug Mode=1

Save and close the file. Now run BG2, and while in the game, press CTRL+SPACE to open up the console. There are a couple of things you can try to get Terminsel to show up. First of all, move yourself to an outdoors area, such as the Umar Hills or Druid Grove. Now open up the console, and enter the following strings:

CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("JaheiraRomance","GLOBAL",1)

and

CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("TerminselSpawn","GLOBAL",1)

Wait a few seconds, and then try resting. If he still doesn't show up at this point, try moving to a different location on the map. Good luck!

[ 04-15-2001: Message edited by: TheHellion ]

Idiyen · Post by **Idiyen** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 5:02 am

Okay, this is with the Harper quests. I killed Dermin, and blah blah.... when is Terminsel supposed to appear? I want to finish it up before i leave for Brynnlaw but im running out of lame quests to do! hehe!

rapier · Post by **rapier** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 5:06 am

In my game Terminsel showed up after leaving the Underdark, you can finish the Jaheira romance in Chapter six anyways...

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 3:57 pm

Ok I'm a bit earlier than I thought....

And I have good news : look [url="http://www.polbox.com/m/manveru"]there[/url]

I've finished another version of my patch - this one is much better than the previous one.

[ 04-16-2001: Message edited by: Manveru ]

Evandarian · Post by **Evandarian** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 5:27 pm

Manveru, u are a godsend!

just wondering (not familiar w/ patches) wut exactly do i havta do when i d/l it?
Also, wut happens in a game where the romance is already halfway thru?

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 5:33 pm

Copy the files from archive to override folder in BGII main folder.

Patch works for romances at any stage. Main problems that could be encountered are listed in readme file attached to zip file with patch.

If you have other one then let me know..

Evandarian · Post by **Evandarian** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 5:38 pm

thanx! (havent tried it yet tho... gotta get on the other comp to use bg2

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**praying that the romance will work out- trying to build up this pc for ToB and cant live w/o Jaheira

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rage · Post by **rage** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 6:02 pm

hey all. thought id revive this post with a question. I am near the the end of the game, just before Chpter 7. I have been romancing Jaheria and want to get the Harper Pin before going anyfurther. I've spent about 20 days game time wandering around (cause i did all the quests way back in Chapter 3). Ive gotten to the point where Dermin and his party attacks. After that nothing happens. Ive waited 20 days for Terminsel but he hasnt shown. Ive tried doing the things previously mentioned in this post (all that "CLUAConsole:GetGlobal" stuff) and i've determined im currently at 56, but i cant change it. I get some error message:
luaitoLua-too many arguments
ActiveStack:
ActiveStack:

what do i do to progress and get the pin?
thx

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 10:05 pm

Originally posted by rage:
hey all. thought id revive this post with a question. I am near the the end of the game, just before Chpter 7. I have been romancing Jaheria and want to get the Harper Pin before going anyfurther. I've spent about 20 days game time wandering around (cause i did all the quests way back in Chapter 3). Ive gotten to the point where Dermin and his party attacks. After that nothing happens. Ive waited 20 days for Terminsel but he hasnt shown. Ive tried doing the things previously mentioned in this post (all that "CLUAConsole:GetGlobal" stuff) and i've determined im currently at 56, but i cant change it. I get some error message:
luaitoLua-too many arguments
ActiveStack:
ActiveStack:

what do i do to progress and get the pin?
thx

That error message is telling you that you have a syntax error, in other words, a typo.

I've recently started another Jaheira romance (with an unpatched game), and LOVETALK=56 is where the romance hangs up. I used the CLUA command to get it to 57, then forced the next couple of dialogues:

Holding the cursor over Jaheira, I entered the following at the console:
SetGlobal("LOVETALK","LOCALS",57)
I then moved the party to the Druid Grove.
I forced the next dialogues (resting when necessary) with:
SetGlobal("JaheiraRomance","GLOBAL",1)

Of course, this method takes patience. If you don't care about the intervening dialogues and want to force an immediate Terminsel appearance, enter the following at the console:

SetGlobal("LOVETALK","LOCALS",70)
SetGlobal("JaheiraRomanceActive","GLOBAL",2)
SetGlobal("TerminselSpawn","GLOBAL",5)
SetGlobal("TerminselAppear","GLOBAL",1)

[ 04-25-2001: Message edited by: Sojourner ]

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Wed Apr 25, 2001 5:19 am

Ok I have got the question :

Has anyone played in the following manner ? :

1) Told Jaheira that he will left her in her cage.
2) Then come back to her. Release her, apologize and join to the party ?

I ask because I've found something strange in her script :

If we do like it was mentioned above JaheiraJerk is set to 1 and JaheiraMatch set to 0.

Romance cannot occur. But there are listed four "romance" dialogues with real timers set to 5 REAL time days between dialogues. Mainly they are similar to the four dialogues in normal romance. But if we even obtain the 4th "romance" dialogue nothing is supposed to happen later - no romance.

So now the question : Is this next "timers" bug ? Or it is supposed to be as it was scripted (PC left her in the cage what may be enough reason not to start romance but he returned, apologized and released her) ?

What do you think about that ?

[ 04-25-2001: Message edited by: Manveru ]

tinytim · Post by **tinytim** » Wed Apr 25, 2001 6:42 pm

glad to see that someone besides my self searches the past posts

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