The Succeeder Stronghold

ch85us2001 · Post by **ch85us2001** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:33 pm

[QUOTE=Ravager]For agreeing with you or saying that agreeing with you is scary?

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To agree with me is against the law of nature.

Phreddie · Post by **Phreddie** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:35 pm

[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]I'm not exactly one who's gonna lose any sleep over Mothman, but I don't see any reason NOT to believe in him so I wouldn't be surprised if he did exist. Same with UFO sightings, bigfoot, loch ness monster, etc. Is it so tough to believe in these paranormal-type events? That's kind of my stand on it.[/QUOTE]
Theyve actually proven big foot false, they guy came out a couple of years ago, or well his family did, he had it released only after his death.

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:35 pm

@Chu, even more so when I'm involved. :laugh:

@Tony, what about evidence to the contrary? People have swept Loch Ness dozens of time and found no signs of any such creature.

ch85us2001 · Post by **ch85us2001** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:36 pm

[QUOTE=Phreddie]1. Government Experimentations: Explains wierd mutants near a government site, strange men in black suits with black cars etc.[/QUOTE]
That's what I believe.

I believe the men in black are a real government orginization too.

Not the alien blasting kind, but one that investigates and covers up Paranormal events.

Phreddie · Post by **Phreddie** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:37 pm

Chu, theyre called the FBI, its what they do, domestic cover ups.

Fiona · Post by **Fiona** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:37 pm

ch85us2001 · Post by **ch85us2001** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:38 pm

[QUOTE=Ravager]

@Tony, what about evidence to the contrary? People have swept Loch Ness dozens of time and found no signs of any such creature.[/QUOTE]
Loch Ness is 600 feet deep and HUGELY huge. It could easily hide.

TonyMontana1638 · Post by **TonyMontana1638** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:39 pm

[QUOTE=Ravager]
@Tony, what about evidence to the contrary? People have swept Loch Ness dozens of time and found no signs of any such creature.[/QUOTE]

But I don't necessarily believe them any more than I do the dudes who said they saw it. In all honesty I don't place alot of stock in these things. Really, I don't at all. I'm just saying, more on principal than with evidence, that not everything in life can be explained with hard evidence and camera footage. Maybe all these people really did see something. Or the Mothman thing could very well be a huge hoax, and all those witnesses came forth in a Witch Hunt fashion, but who knows. I just know I'm never goin to live anywhere Pleasant Point, WV. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want (I'm not) but that's just my take.

They proved Big Foot false? That's cool, one less thing for me to not think about.

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:42 pm

I happen to disregard generally all I see from "experts" as propanda, nonsense, or biased viewpoints based on delusion. *nods* If I switch the characters to the number system science would be screwed, so why believe in something so fragile?

Fiona · Post by **Fiona** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:43 pm

http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/17 ... mons.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_Mons

Phreddie · Post by **Phreddie** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:44 pm

[QUOTE=ch85us2001]Loch Ness is 600 feet deep and HUGELY huge. It could easily hide.[/QUOTE]
yeah.... except that they used the saem technology they used to search for the titanic, which was about two miles deep and they scanned an area much larger than loch ness, seeing as the tanic was way off course due to the ocean currents dragging on her while she sank.

ch85us2001 · Post by **ch85us2001** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:44 pm

TonyMontana1638 wrote:I just know I'm never goin to live anywhere Pleasant Point, WV. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want (I'm not) but that's just my take.

Heh, I had a 1st grade teacher who was on the Silver bridge the day it collapsed. :speech:

I believe aliens are really humans, time travelling from the future.

They proved Big Foot false? That's cool, one less thing for me to not think about.

No, just one evidence thing.

Someone saw bigfoot near a racetrack in Alma Ohio once. *nods*

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:45 pm

There are reputable experts out there with lots of backing. It's a bit different from placing your trust in some random person, who may or may not see something or be tricked by some kind of illusion.

@Phreddie, that's what I'd heard.

TonyMontana1638 · Post by **TonyMontana1638** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:54 pm

[QUOTE=Ravager]There are reputable experts out there with lots of backing. It's a bit different from placing your trust in some random person, who may or may not see something or be tricked by some kind of illusion.

@Phreddie, that's what I'd heard.[/QUOTE]

*Sigh* This is what I worried about when I mentioned I didn't see any reason to not believe the Mothman stuff, because now I'm some gullible idiot, a conspiracy theorist or, worse, some mystic trying to see God in all this stuff.

Come now.

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All I meant was that if someone came up to me and said
"I saw bigfoot the other day outside of my house in Jersey City" I'd say "That's cool" and go on with my life. But I'd also believe him. Just the way I am I guess: if someone has enough problems to make somthing like that up, then I won't feel like an idiot if it's revealed to be completely untrue, because then they have the real problem.

ch85us2001 · Post by **ch85us2001** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:55 pm

[QUOTE=Phreddie]yeah.... except that they used the saem technology they used to search for the titanic, which was about two miles deep and they scanned an area much larger than loch ness, seeing as the tanic was way off course due to the ocean currents dragging on her while she sank.[/QUOTE]
And it took them 15 years to find it.

Fiona · Post by **Fiona** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:56 pm

@ Tony. You can't prove a negative. However extraordinay claims demand extraordinary evidence. It's a question of where the burden of proof lies,IMO

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:57 pm

[QUOTE=Ravager]There are reputable experts out there with lots of backing. It's a bit different from placing your trust in some random person, who may or may not see something or be tricked by some kind of illusion.[/QUOTE]

"Reputable" government officials say the US is doing "good". :laugh:

Phreddie · Post by **Phreddie** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:57 pm

it took them 15 years because they didnt know where they were looking, Loch Ness last I heard had clearly defined boundaries, such as her shores.

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:00 pm

[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]*Sigh* This is what I worried about when I mentioned I didn't see any reason to not believe the Mothman stuff, because now I'm some gullible idiot, a conspiracy theorist or, worse, some mystic trying to see God in all this stuff.
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I didn't mean to suggest you were, I was just making a general point.

@Mag, not all scientists are connected to governments, even if many are funded by them.

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:01 pm

[QUOTE=Ravager]@Mag, now all scientists are connected to governments, even if many are funded by them.[/QUOTE]

*shrugs* I defy science, I hold little faith what they hold as fact. If they cannot explain little old me, why should accept their view on anything else?