I'm in a very disturbed mood, and decided to share this. I guess only by releasing what has come to my knowledge, I can avoid more wounds from this catastrophe.
Today, after arriving home from a quite light and happy working day and after taking my GF to her job, my mom come and told me this:
"Luis, you better have a bath."
I thought we had been robbed by the light green that her face was turned into. Mom never tells me to have a bath. After a small struggle, dad came to my help and told nothing like robbery happened, but something worst.
Months ago I've mentioned somewhere here (HC, prolly) I was in a marriage and a cousin of mine and I got close. I told the guys around that she was magnificiently beautifull. And she was. I'll never be able to immagine what happened. She was tortured, raped and desfigurated by (I guess) a group of men, and found yesterday on a wood at her town. Her mother is in the hospital with a nervous crisis. The family is really bad. Everyone is shocked, cause despite the fact that as a 16 year old girl she had abandoned her studies, she was working. She had a Boyfriend. She was strikingly beautifull, with nice green eyes, blonde hair, and a perfect body and smile. Also, she was simpathetic, energetic, danced like an angel.
Why do people do this?
What shall we expect of humankind if a stupid son of a bitch does this kind of thing to a girl?
What shall I expect me to do if I catch someone like this retarded piece of ****?
I mean, no, ok, you're going to rob me: Right, go right ahead, take my posessions. You're going to beat me? Do it at once. You'll kill me? Kill me, cut my neck, beat my head strong enough, give me a single blow you coward. Dont make me suffer. Dont rob, rape, violate, kill and torture my soul.
This is also a warning: If you rape, I hope you die.
Damn, I'm so mad, I hate people. I hate. Damn, this is the day of Hate.
In the day of the Hate.
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In the day of the Hate.
Flesh to stone ain't permanent, it seems.
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*sighs* I am so, so sorry Luis. A number of my close female friends have been raped. A number of my ex's were rape victims. I know I have mentioned before that my ex Pattie was raped for the simple reason the guy didn't like me, wanted her, and therefore decided to take her and hurt me all in one go. Given that, I have to say, my advice....call in to work tomorrow. Leave a message now if you can, inform them there was a family crisis, and you need a few days off.
Get very drunk, and write out whatever comes to mind. It will help you vent. Make sure there is someone nearby that you can trust to keep you sane while you work through this. Someone who you know you wouldn't hurt when angry if they attempt to stop you from doing something dangerous. The only reason I didn't kill the bastard who raped Pattie was the fact she got in my way and demanded I promise I wouldn't hurt, or have anything to do with anyone else hurting the person who did that to her if I had ever loved her. I really do think if she hadn't I would be in a cell right now for murder.
If you need someone to talk to.....let me know? I could call you after work if you really needed it. I have money stashed away I could talk for a little while.
I really am sorry man.
I hope this all works out somehow. To be honest, most of those I have helped work through those situations haven't been the same afterwards. However, and this is a big thing, however, if handled properly, with positive and loving support, this can turn into a situation which makes everyone involved stronger because of the pain it has caused. Even though it may hurt, do not close yourself off to talking about it with the others involved. Especially yourself....
Get very drunk, and write out whatever comes to mind. It will help you vent. Make sure there is someone nearby that you can trust to keep you sane while you work through this. Someone who you know you wouldn't hurt when angry if they attempt to stop you from doing something dangerous. The only reason I didn't kill the bastard who raped Pattie was the fact she got in my way and demanded I promise I wouldn't hurt, or have anything to do with anyone else hurting the person who did that to her if I had ever loved her. I really do think if she hadn't I would be in a cell right now for murder.
If you need someone to talk to.....let me know? I could call you after work if you really needed it. I have money stashed away I could talk for a little while.
I really am sorry man.
I hope this all works out somehow. To be honest, most of those I have helped work through those situations haven't been the same afterwards. However, and this is a big thing, however, if handled properly, with positive and loving support, this can turn into a situation which makes everyone involved stronger because of the pain it has caused. Even though it may hurt, do not close yourself off to talking about it with the others involved. Especially yourself...."You can do whatever you want to me."
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"Oh, so I can crate you and hide you in the warehouse at the end of Raiders?"
"So funny, kiss me funny boy!" / *Sprays mace* " I know, I know, bad for the ozone"
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I'm truly sorry Luis...
I'm not around on MSN very much just now, but if you need to talk PM me, and I'll send you my email address. *hug*
I'm not around on MSN very much just now, but if you need to talk PM me, and I'll send you my email address. *hug*
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Oh my god...
This is where I really wish I had a battleaxe. People do NOT deserve this treatment. I only wish there was something I could really do physically to change this whole situation (if not the whole world) around right now.
Half the time, I swear it seems like if I don't do anything, nothing good seems to get done anywhere.
My sincerist condolences and apologies, Luis.
This is where I really wish I had a battleaxe.
People do NOT deserve this treatment. I only wish there was something I could really do physically to change this whole situation (if not the whole world) around right now. Half the time, I swear it seems like if I don't do anything, nothing good seems to get done anywhere.
My sincerist condolences and apologies, Luis.
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Luis, my sympathies.
Hope justice be served as soon as possible and that you, your cousin,and your family will overcome this.
Hope justice be served as soon as possible and that you, your cousin,and your family will overcome this.
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I'm really sorry that happened to someone you knew and loved, Luis.
There's no good way to find comfort in a time like this, but hopefully your grief will be lessened as time goes on.
Do you have faith in God? Do you believe in Heaven? Maybe that will help.
In my opinion, when something horrible like this happens, it proves that humans are really just animals. The only thing keeping things like this from happening more often is the fact that most of us learn civilized behavior and we never become desperate enough or depraved enough to do such horrible things. But the fact that such things are so rare gives me hope. Humans are capable of being so much more than animals. We have love, we have nobility. The list goes on: compassion, selflessness, devotion, faith in something greater than ourselves. We even believe in justice, no matter how elusive it might be. Your hate is natural and completely justified. But I hope you can see the goodness in humanity as well as the badness. Take comfort in in the love of your family and friends, and show them your love instead of your hate. Maybe it will comfort them.
I wish you all the best.
There's no good way to find comfort in a time like this, but hopefully your grief will be lessened as time goes on.
Do you have faith in God? Do you believe in Heaven? Maybe that will help.
In my opinion, when something horrible like this happens, it proves that humans are really just animals. The only thing keeping things like this from happening more often is the fact that most of us learn civilized behavior and we never become desperate enough or depraved enough to do such horrible things. But the fact that such things are so rare gives me hope. Humans are capable of being so much more than animals. We have love, we have nobility. The list goes on: compassion, selflessness, devotion, faith in something greater than ourselves. We even believe in justice, no matter how elusive it might be. Your hate is natural and completely justified. But I hope you can see the goodness in humanity as well as the badness. Take comfort in in the love of your family and friends, and show them your love instead of your hate. Maybe it will comfort them.
I wish you all the best.
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Luis, I'm sorry. That is awful, just awful.
I don't know how much sympathy over the web can help, but all I can say is that it is genuine. I'm with Mag- if you need someone to talk to, PM, e-mail... whatever. I'm in NYC and can get a calling card at little expense. If that's the least I can do, I'd be happy to.
Again, I'm really sorry.
I don't know how much sympathy over the web can help, but all I can say is that it is genuine. I'm with Mag- if you need someone to talk to, PM, e-mail... whatever. I'm in NYC and can get a calling card at little expense. If that's the least I can do, I'd be happy to.
Again, I'm really sorry.
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Animals don't do this. Actions this terrible take will, motive, direction and intent.
There is no solution for you Luis, and I can't imagine what it's like.
I can't eve think of my own reaction to it. Vengeance is tempting, some people just need to meet God a little faster than the rest of us.
Or meet the ground in a permanent sense.
There is no solution for you Luis, and I can't imagine what it's like.
I can't eve think of my own reaction to it. Vengeance is tempting, some people just need to meet God a little faster than the rest of us.
Or meet the ground in a permanent sense.
The waves came crashing in like blindness.
So I just stood and listened.
So I just stood and listened.
Luis, I am very sorry to hear this. Lots of women get raped. I know several myself, too, and I've had several patients who was raped. Sometimes by men they knew and trusted, sometimes by strangers.
EDIT: I am terribly sorry, but I am not 100% sure I understand if your cousin was found dead or alive. If she is dead, what I have written below applies to her familiy.
Something very important to learn from women (or men, for that matter, men get raped too) who have been raped, is that often, the worst damage does not come from the actual rape, but from how they are treated after, by their friends, family and sometimes also the police and the court. When bad things happen to you and you are in a crisis, it's not uncommon that people react by shying away from you. Many people also don't like to talk about, or listen to, such horrible events as rape. Your cousin is young - it may be very difficult for her to get support from her friends, since they are also young and relatively inexperienced. It may also be difficult for her to get support from her family, since they are themselves devasted and depressed. Sometimes even professionals like psychotherapists cannot deal with rape in a supportive way. And in many societes, rape is associated with shame for the victim - few crimes are connected to so many different "blame yourself"-attitudes as rape.
The best advice I can give you Luis, is to make sure your cousin and/or her family get all the support they need. And if you detect any bad attitudes among people around them, be firm and condemning against such talk since this can hurt them severely.
Humankind is good and bad, and most of us has the capability too act good or bad in various contexts. Try to help your cousin and/or her family - and yourself - not to let these rapists destroy your life and happiness. That is the best you can do.
PM me if you want to talk about anything, I don't use MSN very often but I can turn it on if you want to talk.
EDIT: I am terribly sorry, but I am not 100% sure I understand if your cousin was found dead or alive. If she is dead, what I have written below applies to her familiy.
Something very important to learn from women (or men, for that matter, men get raped too) who have been raped, is that often, the worst damage does not come from the actual rape, but from how they are treated after, by their friends, family and sometimes also the police and the court. When bad things happen to you and you are in a crisis, it's not uncommon that people react by shying away from you. Many people also don't like to talk about, or listen to, such horrible events as rape. Your cousin is young - it may be very difficult for her to get support from her friends, since they are also young and relatively inexperienced. It may also be difficult for her to get support from her family, since they are themselves devasted and depressed. Sometimes even professionals like psychotherapists cannot deal with rape in a supportive way. And in many societes, rape is associated with shame for the victim - few crimes are connected to so many different "blame yourself"-attitudes as rape.
The best advice I can give you Luis, is to make sure your cousin and/or her family get all the support they need. And if you detect any bad attitudes among people around them, be firm and condemning against such talk since this can hurt them severely.
Humankind is good and bad, and most of us has the capability too act good or bad in various contexts. Try to help your cousin and/or her family - and yourself - not to let these rapists destroy your life and happiness. That is the best you can do.
PM me if you want to talk about anything, I don't use MSN very often but I can turn it on if you want to talk.
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[QUOTE=Obsidian]Animals don't do this. Actions this terrible take will, motive, direction and intent. [/QUOTE]
Not to detract from the topic of this thread, but actually they do...animals that are similar to us, rape each other. Chimps and other apes with highly developed cognitive functions, dolphins...like war, murder, and violence in general, rape is probably part of the human biology, but that doesn't mean we should not condemn it and use all means we can to prohibit it.
Not to detract from the topic of this thread, but actually they do...animals that are similar to us, rape each other. Chimps and other apes with highly developed cognitive functions, dolphins...like war, murder, and violence in general, rape is probably part of the human biology, but that doesn't mean we should not condemn it and use all means we can to prohibit it.
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