Mitnick is not sending me the email that he said he would send.

Solipso · Post by **Solipso** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:10 pm

I am a Toreador, in Chinatown. When I was in the Warrens, I agreed to help Mitnick set up a network. Mitnick said he would email instructions on what I would need to do, but no emails have arrived.

I have only the Santa Monica haven. I have been sassy with LaCroix, and he never gave me the haven in Skyeline. I used the noclip code to access the Skyeline haven, but no email from Mitnick has arrived there either.

Maybe my character needs to complete more objectives in Chinatown. Can someone confirm or deny that, or provide help in some other way? Is Mitnick going to email those instructions or not?

Acleacius · Post by **Acleacius** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:20 am

If I recall, its should be imeadatly after Warrens.
Are you Offically patched to 1.2 ?
Are you using any Unoffical patch?

Lestat · Post by **Lestat** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:08 am

Haven shouldn't be an issue, since if you played as a Nossie you wouldn't even have had the opportunity to obtain another haven yet.
Normally you can do his missions as soon as you get out of the warrens.

Did you try to go back and talk to him again? Maybe you did not fully complete the dialogue as it was supposed to go. There are a few quirks like that in the game.

Solipso · Post by **Solipso** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:45 am

Thank you for the replies but neither one has helped.

Yes I am playing version 1.2. In fact to be doubly sure, I have just tried to run the patch. I got a message telling me the game has already been patched to version 1.2 and the patch cannot be reinstalled.

Yes I have completed the Warrens. I am presently in Chinatown and have already completed some quests there.

I have checked my email in Santa Monica a number of times, and though the network quest is listed in my Active Quests for Hollywood, I have gotten absolutely no email from Mitnick. In fact here is the quest, verbatim:

“You have agreed to help Mitnick set up a new Nosferatu network. He will be contacting you with instructions via your email account back at your haven.”

Also, both before and after you advised me to do so, I returned to Gary's hideout, thinking I might need to re-initialize the quest. But guess what? Mitnick is gone!

Pending help from this message board, I am going to do this: I am going to restore a save from before I went into the Warrens. Before I go down there I am going to explore the Nocturne Theatre and try to get the “A Tangled Web” quest, which I have read about but which I don’t think I have done (I do not have it listed as a completed quest). I have gone into the theatre after getting Mitnick's network quest, but some cops were there. As soon as they spotted me, I got a message saying I had failed the network quest.

Restoring the save will require a lot of replay, but the network quest is interesting and I want to do it.

Does anyone have any other ideas on what I should do to get that email?

Solipso · Post by **Solipso** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:23 am

[QUOTE=Solipso]Pending help from this message board, I am going to do this: I am going to restore a save from before I went into the Warrens. Before I go down there I am going to explore the Nocturne Theatre and try to get the “A Tangled Web” quest, which I have read about but which I don’t think I have done (I do not have it listed as a completed quest). I have gone into the theatre after getting Mitnick's network quest, but some cops were there. As soon as they spotted me, I got a message saying I had failed the network quest.[/QUOTE]

Excuse me. That is mistaken. The "A Tangled Web" quest is the network quest.

So now I have no ideas on what I should do to get Mitnick's email. Does anyone else?

Lestat · Post by **Lestat** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:33 am

Let me get this straight: when did you enter the Nocturn Theatre?

Because the mission in the Nocturne Theatre is indeed part of the Tangled web quest and if you alerted the guards there, before Mitnick even had the chance to send you an e-mail, I thinked you messed up the quest before even getting it. It might still log, but because of your action in the Theatre it will have been flagged as failed. In that case you need to go back to a save from before you went into the Theatre. Maybe there is a shorter way via console (to remove the failed flag), but I'm no console user, so can't help you there.

Solipso · Post by **Solipso** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:03 am

[QUOTE=Lestat]Let me get this straight: when did you enter the Nocturn Theatre?[/QUOTE]

Lestat, thank you very much for trying to help.

Before starting this thread, I had gone into the Nocturne Theatre two times. I remember exploring the theatre before going down into the Warrens. Strangely, before opening the door onto the stage I heard footsteps, but there was no one there. To repeat, the first time I went into the theatre absolutely no one was there. The hub was there, but I could not click on it.

Note: I have tried clicking on the hub after getting Mitnick's quest (but without getting his email) and without having alerted the guards, but I cannot click on it. I think I need to get that email and follow Mitnick's instructions.

The second time I went there was after I had visited the Warrens and gotten Mitnick's quest. But I checked my email before going into the theatre and alerting the guards. I went into the theatre only after I started looking for help about what to do about not getting Mitnick's email. I read a walkthrough that mentioned the "A Tangled Web" quest and the Nocturne Theatre (I didn't read closely enough to understand that this quest was the network quest).

I am now wondering if the "ghost" footsteps I heard during my first visit to the theatre might have triggered the flag you mentioned. I think that is not true because there were no guards present to be alerted. Just the sound of footsteps. But if it is true, I'm afraid the only way I'll get Mitnick's email is to replay from before I made that first visit. That will mean replaying almost all of Hollywood.

I'm prepared to do that, but I do not want to go through a dozen hours of replay only to discover I'm still not getting the email.

Any other ideas?

Lestat · Post by **Lestat** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:16 am

Did you get any message when you went in the first time (before meeting Mitnick)? But even if you didn't, my gut feeling is that this is what triggered your later problems. Especially if you didn't go in in sneak mode when you went on the stage.

Acleacius · Post by **Acleacius** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:40 pm

Another possiblity is that you have more emails than you see on your computer.
I.e. if you show 10 emails which is quite possible at that point in the game, especially if you have not deleted any and have the 3 emails from V.V.
So delete the trash emails, none need to be saved, only ones I keep (no reason really) are the from a Friend.

Solipso · Post by **Solipso** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:51 pm

[QUOTE=Lestat]Did you get any message when you went in the first time (before meeting Mitnick)? But even if you didn't, my gut feeling is that this is what triggered your later problems. Especially if you didn't go in in sneak mode when you went on the stage.[/QUOTE]

Nope, I go no message, and there were no cops present. Maybe the sound of their footsteps was a premonition.

Certainly I got a message the second time. But I just reloaded. The second visit, however, was made after I had already checked my email.

I hope that someone with an understanding on what prevented me from getting that email will make a post.

In the meantime, I have decided to start the whole game over. I will again use code to start my Toreador off with maximized skills in firearms and perception. That will make the game pleasantly easy. This time, though, I am not going to annoy LaCroix. That will eliminate any possibility that I need the second haven to get the email. Also, I absolutely will NOT venture into the Nocturne Theatre unlessl I receive instructions to do so from Mitnick.

I won't mind the replay. This game has much going for it. Indeed, I live in downtown Los Angeles, and I am familiar with the game's sites. I have also lived in both Santa Monica and Hollywood. Also, my Toreador fits my person. I have a career as a security officer, and I once finished first in a firearms qualifications' test.

Acleacius · Post by **Acleacius** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:11 pm

My suggestion is to make a SantaMonicaStartTorrie save for the beginning in the apartment and each of the start locations of the 4 city sections which you NEVER save over.
Also I suggest getting the Unoffical Patch 2.1a (latest) and install on TOP of your 1.2 Offical patch, it fixes many problems in the game.

Solipso · Post by **Solipso** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:44 pm

[QUOTE=Acleacius]My suggestion is to make a SantaMonicaStartTorrie save for the beginning in the apartment and each of the start locations of the 4 city sections which you NEVER save over.
Also I suggest getting the Unoffical Patch 2.1a (latest) and install on TOP of your 1.2 Offical patch, it fixes many problems in the game.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the advise. Indeed, since I am only in the tutorial area right now, I will install the 2.1a.

I didn't need your advise regarding saves. At the end of every game session, I deep-save my latest save into a personal folder on my hard drive. And at least once a day, in case my PC breaks down, I save my latest save to my 4 GB Corsair Flash Voyager. I could have restored one of those deep saves to some earlier point, but I wanted to start over so I can be on better terms with LaCroix.

I am still going to check this post to see if someone has run into my problem and has been able to fix it. I sure don't want to repeat it.

Acleacius · Post by **Acleacius** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:08 pm

Be aware the very first conversation with Jack as you come out of the door, the unoffical patch checks to see if you have used extra XP.
So don't use extra Firearms and such till you get to the Santa Monica Haven.

Solipso · Post by **Solipso** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:34 am

[QUOTE=Acleacius]Be aware the very first conversation with Jack as you come out of the door, the unoffical patch checks to see if you have used extra XP.
So don't use extra Firearms and such till you get to the Santa Monica Haven.

[/QUOTE]

I appreciate the warning, but I am already well into Santa Monica and I have encountered no troubles with my initial buffings.

This may be because of one of two things I did. One, I did not type in the codes until immediately after the initial conversation with Jack. Two, I hit Esc to exit to Menu, and then I opened the console while in Menu (a procedure recommended by the 2.1a readme). If I tried using the console with the game world in view, my screen would freeze up. (Then I typed "exit" in the console to return to my desktop.) Use of the console seems to involve a bug with the mouse and cursor, but I don't know about that.

Solipso · Post by **Solipso** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:23 pm

Eureka!

I have discovered why I could not get Mitnick's email. Maybe I am a little embarrassed, but for the sake of anyone else who did what I did, I shall explain.

The email-box screen holds only ten emails. When Mitnick sent me his email, I already had ten and I did not see his. All I needed to do was to hit "n" to bring up the emails that were next in line.

fable · Post by **fable** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:15 pm

Could happen to anybody, Solipso.

Acleacius · Post by **Acleacius** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:17 am

Hehe that is what I said way back.

No worries, just glad you understand now.