Jon Irenicus

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 6:11 am

Have you known?
Jon Irenicus, level 29 mage, *chaotic good(!?)* (LOL), *grender neither*, HP 96, THAC0 11, attacks 1;
str 13, dex 18, con 14, wis 18, int 18, cha 17,
lore 87, luck 0
resistances: fire, mag.fire, cold, , mag.cold, electr., acid - 100%;
magic - 50%;
piercing, slashing, crushing, missle 0%
saves: death 8,wand 3, polym. 5,breath 7, spells 4;

at least such he comes to you in dreams

Best luck,
L.

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 6:42 am

But in the Hell he is already male, neutral evil and level 30 mage

L.

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Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 6:46 am

Irenicus should be the most powerful mage in this game (BG2-SoA not in ToB). So he should have 25int and 25wis.

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Elen sila Lumenn' Omentielvo

Siike · Post by **Siike** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 6:54 am

Why should he have int/wis 25? A mage can be powerful without being über-human. After all, Irenicus isn't far from human/elf.

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:14 am

It would make me feel better if I knew that his char. were so good when I was killing him.

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Elen sila Lumenn' Omentielvo

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Pe Ell · Post by **Pe Ell** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:22 am

D*mn, now we know his name and his stats, that will make killing him so much harder.

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When there is no wrong, there can be no right.

When there is no darkness, there can be no light.

And when there is no evil, there can be no good.

~Just a few words of wisdom from a proud member of the Brotherhood of the woods

sigurd · Post by **sigurd** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:27 am

Irenicus Is elf im i am not mistaking, since the story tells he was an outcast.

Pe Ell · Post by **Pe Ell** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:32 am

Yep, he was an elf but they removed his immortal elven soul. Guess he is just some kind of scale now...

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When there is no wrong, there can be no right.

When there is no darkness, there can be no light.

And when there is no evil, there can be no good.

~Just a few words of wisdom from a proud member of the Brotherhood of the woods

Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:44 am

Irenicus is not so powerful IMO. Try kill Elminster or Drizzt.....they're more powerful.

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Edwin, mighty member of the Brotherhood of the Spellcasters

TheDude · Post by **TheDude** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:51 am

Originally posted by Edwin:
Irenicus is not so powerful IMO. Try kill Elminster or Drizzt.....they're more powerful.

do u confront elminster

??? when ?????
i didn't see him the first time.

Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 7:58 am

You meet him during Jahiera quest. But you don't have to fight him.....but it's funny trying...

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Edwin, mighty member of the Brotherhood of the Spellcasters

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 8:19 am

Forgot to mention, sorry, he is pure *human*

And in hell he has dex 20.
But it doesn't matter ... Slayer has str/dex/con 25/25/25, base AC -4 (-16 at least in total) and more than 200 HP anyway

Wbw,
L.
PS Well, how about there is not supposed the mage over level 17 in the game? Bah, that fellow already have 5 level 9 spells memorized

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Mielikki · Post by **Mielikki** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 8:32 am

wtf is a slayer lol
damnit then a slayer should be abel to kill anything.

elminster has 25 constitution (thanx to being one of chosen of mystra) but rest sucks. spells he memorizes is kinda like 9/9/9/9/9/9/9/9/8.

drizzt on the other hand now in 3rd edition AD&D has 25 dexterity. hard to hit that bitch with a weapon

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i dont know the "need" bioware felt when they decided to put the slayer in the game. i mean its like god mode cheat. it ruins the fun in a way but nm...
these are just my opinions

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~Goddess Of Forests and all Rangers~

Rodo · Post by **Rodo** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 9:11 am

The Slayer isn't *that* poowerful. A well balanced drow party or 2 illithids can kill him straight away.

Kevin Dorner · Post by **Kevin Dorner** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 9:14 am

Irenicus' alignment is CG at some times during the game because his stats. are the same as Elminster's who is CG, so Elminster's CRE file was copied when they created Irenicus and they forgot to change his alignment (and race.) This is one of the bugs I fixed because it does affect the gameplay/player: casting Protection From Evil doesn't do squat if your opponent isn't of evil alignment.

Loredweller · Post by **Loredweller** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 12:00 pm

Well, i speak what i see

I may be wrong about con, but when your protagonist kensai(7)/mage(16) turns to Slayer, you see

STR 25
DEX 25
....
AC -16
Base THAC0 0
Main hand THAC0 -9
Off hand THAC0 -10
...
Saving throws:
Paralyze/Poison/Death: -2 (-12)
Rod/Staff/Wand: -2 (-9)
Petrify/Polymorph -2 (-9)
Breath Weapon: -3 (-12)
Spells: -2(-8)
...
Armor class Modifiers
Missile:-1
...
Ability bonuses
To Hit: +7
Damage: +14
Open Doors: 80
Weigh Allowance: 1600
Armor Class: -6
....
Resistance
Magic:40

Jon is something different, yes, his Slayer have CON only 24 (my kensai have 18 normal), but he have HP 212, and all saving throws are 2, resistance to magic is 50 and base AC is -4!

And, if to make your life easier your spellcasting abilities are disabled (item granted and innate (kai) still accessible, though), i guess from his script he still may use his spells to make your life more interesting

May your Protection from Evil never wear off,
L.

fable · Post by **fable** » Wed Mar 21, 2001 1:18 pm

Kevin, did I miss that file correcting Irenicus' alignment, or is it only part of the big bugfix file?