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Originally posted by Weasel:
I looked around but couldn't find any maps. Interplay had somethings to down load.

It would be nice to have a map of entire region. There are so many books in BG1&2 about area not in the game (like Zhentarim and Cormyr), and I had no idea their relation to Amn or Baldur's Gate.

By the way, Weasel, why did you changed your "Yes my name is Weasel, but that doesn't mean I sleep with them"? I loved that...I laughed 2 minutes when I saw it first time!
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Tolkien and Dragonlance are great but dont forget David Eddings- Sparhawk if you like
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For any of you who like Arthurian legand, there's a series of books by Jack white depicting the legand. It's starts from Romes retreat from Britain, all the way the forming of Camelot. It's a good series, hard reading, but very good.

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I bought Icewind Dale Trilogy Yesterday ( thought it will be easier to read about someone I've already met). I am one of a few who played the game first, and I really enjoy reading them.
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I did exactly the same Minerva. Played the game the read the trilogy (about 3 months ago). I enjoyed the books. Image
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Originally posted by Minerva:

By the way, Weasel, why did you changed your "Yes my name is Weasel, but that doesn't mean I sleep with them"? I loved that...I laughed 2 minutes when I saw it first time!
I just grew tired of it...I'm thinking on adding a different one .... so be prepared for anything Image

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Originally posted by Weasel:
I just grew tired of it...I'm thinking on adding a different one .... so be prepared for anything Image

I'm looking forward to that. Current one is a bit too..., well, normal. I think. Image
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Originally posted by geh4th:

The Earthsea trilogy, Ursula K. LeGuin: small books, easy reading; very good story for the small size. The main Character in many ways still defines for me what a Wizard should be.

Cheers to that. Although, with their stress on balance and reluctance to actually use magic, I've often wondered if the Wizards of Earthsea aren't more akin to AD&D Druids... still, as you say, these books define the mage's ethos for me. Leguin really comes closest to Tolkien, I think, in really creating the culture of a world unlike our own. Actually just re-read the series and bought all four novels for my brother and his wife for their anniversary. Interseting threesome, us:

I was introduced to Fantasy by my father who read "The Once and Future King" to us at bedtime... moved on to Tolkien and Leguin, got Basic D&D for Xmas 1979 (I think), and mad my brother play, which got him into the fantasy groove... 20 years later, his wife is wondering what the hell I'm doing at their house sitting beside her husband playin some strange game on the computer until 6 am, so she starts playing the game, then reading Tolkien... three routes to the same end: Fantasy Literature first, PnP first, CRPG first, all ending in the same place: 2 hours of sleep on a week night.

Getting long, so I'll add another series:
9 Princes in Amber, by Roger Zelazny. Doesn't hold up as well as Leguin, but it ruled when I was a teen...

Oh, and is there any contemprary fantasy out there that compares to Jordan? I drifted away and lost track of authours...

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Post by FoulDwimmerlaik »

fallout used Tolkien and Dragonlance in the same sentence. isn't there some kind of law/regulation against that?
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Originally posted by KN:

I started reading fantasy when I was around 11-12 (I am 28 now) because I could not find anyone in my area that would play D&D so reading it was the next best thing. Most of my favorite Authors have already been mentioned above but here is a few others to add to the list.

If your a big thief fan you might want to check out the Greyhawk Gord The Rogue series by Gary Gygax (TSR)

A good read for Tolkien fans is Dennis L. McKiernan's The Iron Tower trilogy

The Belgariad by David Eddings (A good read for you sorcerers)


All of his books kick arse (although two of his novels are contempory fiction).

And the best thing is NO ******* ELVES!


as you can see... I hate elves, goblins and all that other crap. Atleast the AD&D style creatures.

The original "I'm a wee little one and a half foot elf me is" was alright, but the "I'm a six foot giant with pointy ears" gets up my nose.


Oh yeah, I player Warhammer, use Chaos, the only way ever (in all the games I have ever player over the past six years) any of my 6000pt, 30 man army (20 chaos, and 10 NGobbos) has ever been damaged was from one spell. I hate elves as much as I do empire.
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*bump*

Particularly for recently arrived members... :)
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Hi, I'm very rarely posting although I enjoy reading the board. Since I'm sf/f freak, Iread it first a loooot of books and later started playing only RPGs.

for the books - somebody asked for maps - at he site of [url="http://www.wizards.com"]http://www.wizards.com[/url]
U might be able to find almost everything and / or order the books.

at [url="http://http://www.sfsite.com/"]http://http://www.sfsite.com/[/url]
U'll be able to find all books of TSR separated at series

at [url="http://www.sorcerers.net/"]http://www.sorcerers.net/[/url] is a place also for the TSR books including the new series

at the end - yes, Tolkien is great, second best to _G.R.R.Martin_. I can say that every one who love fantasy MUST read G.R.R.Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire". Ur knowledge will be cripled without this one.
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Books, definitely, but then, I grew up at a time when there weren't any computer games or AD&D (gasp!). The nearest thing was board wargames. TSR's stuff came along in my twenties. I read Pratt, de Camp, Vance, Cabell, Tolkien, Eddison, Dunsany, and many other authors of the so-called "Golden Age of Fantasy Literature." Great stuff. :)
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It seems majority of BG and other AD&D gamers came from reading books first...

Is there any more people who played games first? Or, someone who knows more about AD&D and games, and just start reading books like me?
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My friends introduced me to AD&D a while back but I never really gotten into it. I was then introduced to the Forgotten Realms novels, the first one I read was the Dark Elf Trilogy, and they are the only Fantasy novels I read. I just like the amount of detail there is in universe of the Realms. At school I printed out 56 pages of the history of the Realms in size 8 font. I have a very limited knowledge of AD&D.
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Books first By darn it.
started reading sci-fi/fanatsy way back when i was about 6 due to a school reader series(which name i can't remember ) and have stayed reading everything I could get my hands on scince then.

as to recomending reading i am going to be a bit heretical and say i will not read any TSR fantasy simply because although some of the authors are quite good i have found many are not able to write a convincing story while under the TSR licence (this may be editing ) but i have read one to many generic fantasy clone from TSR to waste my money on them (book are not cheap here )

but for some suggestions

Roger zelaznys Amber series
Robin Hobb's Assasin series and her liveship series are perhaps the best contempory fantasy i have read recently
Guy gavriel Kay writes inticate fantasy which deephasises magic (he is the guy who put the sillmarilion together for the tolkein family)
Tad williams also a great writer
Steven Lawhead writes amazing stuff with spiritual overtones
China melville - Dark Urban Fantasy great stuff
C J Cherryh - some of her fantasy is superb - The Cronicles of morgain but her best work is Sci fi
Niel Gaiman - every fantasy reader should read sandman the way it is put together proved somthing that i hhave believed for a long time that comics can be real literature
his other "real Books" are also very good

There is a lot more on my shelf i will have to look an d come back but for a resonable selection try this link [url="http://www.ludd.luth.se/~doomdark/library.html"]Doomdarks library[/url]
I used to have a link to a more complete se of reviews but the page dissapeared.

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