Dungeon Lords Game Editor V1.56

George_K · Post by **George_K** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:37 am

I have Oblivion base edition. the CE includes a coin and other trivial things. It has a cheat console and several codes have been posted at gamefaqs.com

The enterface is confusing at first, but not many gamers take the time even to check the options. The game map has locations you can zip directly to. But if you travel on foot, or horseback, you discover new places that will then appear on the map.

I only have an fx5900 agp 128mb and the install defaults me to 640/480, but the graphics are strangely adequit. I wouldn't recommend anyone getting it unless they have at least an ATI Radeon 9500, or at least an nvidia fx6500 in order to play at 800/600 and above. Your machine should also have at least 2gig processor and 1gig memory actually available to the game.

I could go on and on, but you get the picture!

I've lost count of the times I've played through DL, all versions, and feel that when finally an editor is doing everything but making morning coffee in DL/CE, Then I'll really get into Oblivion.

Wavemanmav · Post by **Wavemanmav** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:55 pm

Nice editor. I used it to replace the lost Lord Davamore's orders. However, the editor seems to have deleated some of my equipment. Several weapons and trinkets ended up missing.

George_K · Post by **George_K** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:07 pm

Missing equipment??? I've never had that problem, so can't suggest anything. When Steve2d gets caught up with his regular job, maybe he can suggest something.

Wavemanmav · Post by **Wavemanmav** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:11 pm

I used the 1.53 charactor editor to replace Davamore's Orders and a crystal of clarity (though it only let me replace one, not three). However, in doing so, several items (weapons, armor, arcane books, trikets) got deleted. The editor did not seem to read them in my saved character's inventory when I loaded the character into the editor, so when I saved the character in the editor, those items went missing. I am using the CE 1.5.

Steve2d · Post by **Steve2d** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:37 am

[QUOTE=Wavemanmav]I used the 1.53 charactor editor to replace Davamore's Orders and a crystal of clarity (though it only let me replace one, not three). However, in doing so, several items (weapons, armor, arcane books, trikets) got deleted. The editor did not seem to read them in my saved character's inventory when I loaded the character into the editor, so when I saved the character in the editor, those items went missing. I am using the CE 1.5.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm, this is disturbing...First thing, the executable file should be "DLGameEditor V1_53c Beta.exe" (1,540,096 bytes). If this is not the case or just to be certain, please download the newest version from the same link.

I would love to get a copy of the game file (.bak) with which you had this problem, so that I could trace through the program source code to locate the problem. If you can, submit it to dungeonlord@logicse.com. Has it happened with any other game files, item, etc. Do you have any specifics on which items dissappeared?

Wavemanmav · Post by **Wavemanmav** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:38 am

I do have the latest version of the character editor. Each time I loaded the saved character file to the editor, certain items came up missing (weapons, armor, trinkets and arcane spell books, a letter, the crysals and the moonstone). They just did not appear on the editor's list of items for the character. For some reason, other items did not seem to be affected. Also, when I added two of the missing armors (a helm and a shield), they both showed up as damaged in the inventory when I reloaded the saved game, and I had to repair them. Just some info. All in all, the editor is very impressive and has allowed me to continue with a character I would otherwise have had to scrap.

George_K · Post by **George_K** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:02 pm

When you insert items that require minimum and maximum values, to the left of the item window is a couple of little slots where you must usually type in a high enough value so the repair cost won't be too great. If you set the value too high, it doesn't matter. It'll all eventually work out.

Wavemanmav · Post by **Wavemanmav** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:29 pm

[QUOTE=George_K]When you insert items that require minimum and maximum values, to the left of the item window is a couple of little slots where you must usually type in a high enough value so the repair cost won't be too great. If you set the value too high, it doesn't matter. It'll all eventually work out.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. That explains the damaged items.

Steve2d · Post by **Steve2d** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:44 pm

[QUOTE=Wavemanmav]I do have the latest version of the character editor. Each time I loaded the saved character file to the editor, certain items came up missing (weapons, armor, trinkets and arcane spell books, a letter, the crysals and the moonstone). They just did not appear on the editor's list of items for the character. For some reason, other items did not seem to be affected. Also, when I added two of the missing armors (a helm and a shield), they both showed up as damaged in the inventory when I reloaded the saved game, and I had to repair them. Just some info. All in all, the editor is very impressive and has allowed me to continue with a character I would otherwise have had to scrap.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad to hear that some problems that you had could be explained, thanks George. However, I'm still concerned about these items missing from your inventory. Can you give me any specific items with or without item codes. Is there anyway that you would email me a copy of the save file from prior to modification with the editor? Thanks for the positive feedback. Talk to you soon.

mystikspiralfan · Post by **mystikspiralfan** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:23 pm

Ok, I did something stupid and saved in this treasure room in the Naga Temple and I'm now unable to open the door (the other opening has a gate). So I tried to set myself Outside the Naga Temple as a predefined location. The problem is, when I get into my savegame now, I get this: Monster In Space! XTile: 221 ZTile: 186 Type: MONSTER TNum: 0

George_K · Post by **George_K** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:14 pm

Two Rules of changing coordinates;

1. you cannot go from inside dungeons, buildings, etc. to an outside location.

2. you cannot go from outside to any inside location.

You can however go from one point to another while inside, or while outside.

Steve2d · Post by **Steve2d** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:53 pm

[QUOTE=mystikspiralfan]Ok, I did something stupid and saved in this treasure room in the Naga Temple and I'm now unable to open the door (the other opening has a gate). So I tried to set myself Outside the Naga Temple as a predefined location. The problem is, when I get into my savegame now, I get this: Monster In Space! XTile: 221 ZTile: 186 Type: MONSTER TNum: 0[/QUOTE]
did you try to delete the modified file and rename the gameXX.bak to gameXX.sav. My editor makes renames the orignal file to gameXX.bak each time you save it. If you have saved (with the editor) only once since the error began, then you can replace the .sav file with the .bak. Otherwise, you'll have to figure out the coordinates that you were at before within the dungeon.

NOTE***Worst case scenario*** Using a hex editor modify the byte that is 56,467 bytes from the end of the file. This value should NOT currently be zero in the game file that you are able to load. Changing this to zero will put you on the world map. From here you can modify your position again. I have changed the way that the new editor works and you get a warning if you saved game is not on the world map.

Let me know how it works.

Wavemanmav · Post by **Wavemanmav** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:33 pm

[QUOTE=Steve2d]I'm glad to hear that some problems that you had could be explained, thanks George. However, I'm still concerned about these items missing from your inventory. Can you give me any specific items with or without item codes. Is there anyway that you would email me a copy of the save file from prior to modification with the editor? Thanks for the positive feedback. Talk to you soon.[/QUOTE]
Missing the samurai pants, Galdyron's Horn, barbtongue blade, warding ring, blade dancer ring, moonstone, several weapons. I am in Fargrove at the time.

Concolitanos · Post by **Concolitanos** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:58 pm

[QUOTE=Wavemanmav]Nice editor. I used it to replace the lost Lord Davamore's orders. However, the editor seems to have deleated some of my equipment. Several weapons and trinkets ended up missing.[/QUOTE]

I agree. It is a nice editor. I used it in the Trial of the Elders and started out with something small, upgrading my chainmail to demon mail and an xp boost.

As to the bugs that I've seen. I tried adding spells but it didn't work. It seems to randomly add points to my skills and I'm missing equipment also.

The first time I used the editor, it bumped my Medium Weapons from 5 to 22 and my Archery went up to an 8 but my Galdryn's Horn and Devil Dust disappeared. I went back in later because I needed the dust and it figured it was too far to go back so I readded the Horn and the dust but my Medium Weapons changed to 17. I've since completed the Battlemage and Paladin quests but when I got back to Arindale, my Inn key was gone. I went back in for that and my Demon mail and Elven Spirit Bow disappeared, hehe.

I can see it in the editor. On the items page, I have my list of equipment then two blank lines and then a final piece of equipment... and it seems stable too. I resaved in another spot, loaded that save game into the editor and the same two lines (my mail and bow) were blank.

Steve2d · Post by **Steve2d** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:54 am

[QUOTE=Concolitanos]I agree. It is a nice editor. I used it in the Trial of the Elders and started out with something small, upgrading my chainmail to demon mail and an xp boost.

As to the bugs that I've seen. I tried adding spells but it didn't work. It seems to randomly add points to my skills and I'm missing equipment also.

The first time I used the editor, it bumped my Medium Weapons from 5 to 22 and my Archery went up to an 8 but my Galdryn's Horn and Devil Dust disappeared. I went back in later because I needed the dust and it figured it was too far to go back so I readded the Horn and the dust but my Medium Weapons changed to 17. I've since completed the Battlemage and Paladin quests but when I got back to Arindale, my Inn key was gone. I went back in for that and my Demon mail and Elven Spirit Bow disappeared, hehe.

I can see it in the editor. On the items page, I have my list of equipment then two blank lines and then a final piece of equipment... and it seems stable too. I resaved in another spot, loaded that save game into the editor and the same two lines (my mail and bow) were blank.[/QUOTE]

Wow, it sounds like I have some major problems in the program! Are you running 1.4 or 1.5(CE)? I have only been able to test on 1.5 myself.

Concolitanos · Post by **Concolitanos** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:19 am

It's 1.5 CE. There does seem to be a pattern to it. I stayed in the same place, just outside the Temple in Arindale and saved in three different places. Each time I loaded into the editor, the same lines seemed to be missing. I then ran back to Fargrove, mainly to finish the Erlinmir quest because I lost the flask trying to get back the Arindale Inn key but I couldn't replace it because it's not in the editor. When I got back to Fargrove, I checked the save and saw a similar pattern of blank lines in the items list.

I don't want to send you on a wild goose chase so I won't try to guestimate the problem but there does seem to be a pattern of sorts.

Oh, if it helps, I have DL loaded on my D drive but the editor alerts me that DL hasn't been installed on my machine. I can get to the save files easily enough but it's another detail that might help you.

Steve2d · Post by **Steve2d** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:29 am

[QUOTE=Concolitanos]It's 1.5 CE. There does seem to be a pattern to it. I stayed in the same place, just outside the Temple in Arindale and saved in three different places. Each time I loaded into the editor, the same lines seemed to be missing. I then ran back to Fargrove, mainly to finish the Erlinmir quest because I lost the flask trying to get back the Arindale Inn key but I couldn't replace it because it's not in the editor. When I got back to Fargrove, I checked the save and saw a similar pattern of blank lines in the items list.

I don't want to send you on a wild goose chase so I won't try to guestimate the problem but there does seem to be a pattern of sorts.

Oh, if it helps, I have DL loaded on my D drive but the editor alerts me that DL hasn't been installed on my machine. I can get to the save files easily enough but it's another detail that might help you.[/QUOTE]
1.5 really? Can you, please, email me a copy of the affected saved game file at dungeonlord@logicse.com? I have a copy of a V1.4 game file that someone else sent, but I don't have 1.4 installed anymore, which makes difficult to validate the problem. The Arindale Inn key is item #259 and is on the list of the newest version of the editor.

Steve2d · Post by **Steve2d** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:50 am

[QUOTE=Concolitanos]Oh, if it helps, I have DL loaded on my D drive but the editor alerts me that DL hasn't been installed on my machine. I can get to the save files easily enough but it's another detail that might help you.[/QUOTE]

This problem indicates some confusion in your registry. This editor checks the DL registry entries (specifically "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{F41D7749-D973-42E7-BD80-64309766C39E}" key) for the value "InstallLocation" which should contain the full path to the install location for DL. If this does not exist then the editor is confused and believes that the game is not installed. It should still run normally, but defaults to the "C:\Program Files\Dreamcatcher\Dungeon Lords\save" directory. Can you check your registry entries and let me know if that registry key exists on your system? and what is listed inside it?

Concolitanos · Post by **Concolitanos** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:55 am

[QUOTE=Steve2d]The Arindale Inn key is item #259 and is on the list of the newest version of the editor.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I didn't explain myself correctly. I loaded the save into the editor to replace the Inn key but in reloading, Erlinmir's Flask got blanked out and the Flask currently isn't in the editor. I think it's item #942. Fortunately, I was on my way back to Fargrove to get my Battlemage class so I didn't need the Inn key right away. I gave Erlinmir back his Flask on my way to Rhianne since Fargrove was locked down.

PRGFool · Post by **PRGFool** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:47 pm

Background: Used the game save editor to add Mogs key earlier in the character and I had to do it a couple of times because I kept on losing weapons including the very valuable sceptre of storms. I finally got the key and retained my weapons, i think I had to reload them to character but they were in my inventory.

Now I am trying to load the same character save file in and when I open and save I am getting an arithmetic overflow and when I load it seems to work ok but on the save it must be stopping the save because the demon key that I add, is not in inventory.

Is a field in my character, that you might be useing for a counter corrupt or have you seen this before?

Secondly, am I correct to think that the error on save, stops the file from being saved. ( I get an option to continue)( i checked and I am on .net 1.1)

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