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cant train to be a budoka

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hello, the eastern guilds are not offering to me the budoka class, so i cant be a ninja lord.

im a rogue, here is what ive done.
ive also taken the sorcerer path and have the battlemage quest.

i went to arindale, found the dragon egg, for the path of the dragon quest, and gave it to the tiger guy. at the time, he did offer me the budoka quest, even though i had not given custards map to vartugg, but i wast qualified at the time, so i took the path of the tiger, got the armor from ulm, took it back to arindale.
after ulm, i talked to the lady at the inn, the apothecary, and lord galadriad, or whatever the elf leaders name is.
then i went to the tiger guy, but he did not aknowledge that i finished the path of the tiger, he kept asking me if i wanted to learn the path of the tiger, saying no, or yes, didnt help.

it was then i realised i still have to take custards map to skulldoon, so i did that, and am now part of the guild of mystery.

i then returned to both the eastern guild in fargrove and arindale, the fargrove guy asked me if i want to learn the path of the dragon, even though i already got the egg and gave it to tiger guy, and he would not offer the budoka quest, or the dragon egg quest again.
and the tiger guy is still asking me if want to learn the path of the tiger.

so i dunno, is my game screwed up?
im sure you can be a battlemage/ninja lord, ive read about those.

is there somethign i missed, should have done? anyone else ever have this happen? i really want to be a ninja lord.
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Did you accept any quests from the Guild of Mystery after turning in the map? If so, then you might have removed the Eastern House classes as possibilities.

Otherwise, it sort of sounds like your game doesn't realize you've completed any of the Eastern House quests, and so you might be stuck with a bug.

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the only quest i accepted was from vartugg, i gave mara's note to him and now have to get a thimble of blood from valdane and do the rescue mission.

i didnt take any class quests like hunter or trickster from the guild of mystery, but i guess i might not have any choice but pick one of those, they are offered.
i dont want to be a trickster/cabalist though, with the broken alchemy skill, there isnt much to offer taking that class, and i dont think i want to chance the reliability of hawkeye, plus i rarely use my bow in battle, they monsters are on me too fast.
maybe ill go the mage guild route and get spellfire as a wizard, if thats possible, since i can get a nether spell that drains life which is all the warlock or cabalist has for its final skill.

the only other quests i have going as well are finding mog's storage place, getting that codex, and finding valdane, or however you spell his name.

im not too happy to think that some bug is going to ruin my chance of being a ninja lord, and i could never restart the game again, this game is self torture sometimes
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Take what is yours

Hello.
I'd suggest you edit your saved game to correct the bug that has occured.
Editing isn't a crime if you want to correct a mistake for wich you aren't responsible.
And you might have already chosen some path but I could also suggest you to be a Adept - Paladin for the Heavy Stuff, Battle mages only get the Heavy shields and Armour you know...
P.S.: As for the alchemy skill it does work, I've tested it ( I got v 1.4).
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i thought you could only edit items, character stats, that kinda thing in a save game editor, you can edit your class too?

no, i havnt taken any other class yet.

what do i do? open the editor, then pick the budoka class?
then it gives me all the extra skills at rank one?

then later on i can choose ninja lord as well?

btw, battlemage gets heavy shields, armor, and weapons.
i am using that huge spiked mace i got off the minotour right now.
it does great damage, though ive yet to see it stun anything, and its supposed to have a 25% chance.
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ok i see how it works, i downloaded the editor, usually hate using those things.
you cant pick your class, but you can pick your skills, so i picked the budoka extra skills.
you just dont get the learning bonuses, but since it doesnt take up a class slot, i can take another class like warlock on top of it.
would liked to do the class quests and actually be a ninja lord, but this works just the same i guess :)
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Battlemage

Are you absolutly sure the Battlemages are allowed to use Heavy Weapons?
What version of the game have you got? I got 1.4 and I tried that class and you can only use the Heavy armour and shields...
I even checked the "Classes" section and they said the same: Heavy armour and shields... I checked it in the "Weapons" section as well and could not find the "Battlemage" class name at Heavy Weapons... How come you can use them? :confused:
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that is really strange. yes, i read the class description, it doenst say heavy weapons, yet when i was promoted to battlemage, the skill opened up.

well, i guess the game screwed me over on ninja lord and budoka, but gave me heavy weapon skill.
you sure you cant use heavy weapons? im using that great crusher mace from the minotour that does amazing damage.
at least one bug in the game worked in my favor for a change :)
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Heavy Weapons

So your using that Great Crusher Mace without penalty, right?
Did this occur before or after you edited your game? Because I've heard people say that strange things might indeed happen after you edit it.
For example: Using a heavy weapon AND a light/ medium dual weapon.
Actually you can use any weapon or shield but then you'll get lots of penalty...
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there was a penalty to use the great crusher at first, but now that i have my heavy weapon skill at a higher lvl, no penalty.

i did not use the editor until after i became a battlemage, when i read your post today to try that.

and even more interesting, my roommate is also playing the games off the same cd's and his battlemage gets heavy weapons,
and, i just had to increase my heavy weapon skill to five, since when i tried to apply for the warlock class, since no ninja lord for me, one of the
prerequisites for warlock was heavy weapons lvl 5. i only had lvl 4, so i had to run out and get some points.

so i dunno, it seems me and my roommates game intends battlemages to have heavy weapons.
im in canada, maybe there are different versions of the game, european, and north american??
where are you? i have the collectors edition in the metal box.

or maybe its that i never downloaded any patches for the game, and maybe they removed heavy weapons in a patch from battlemages and warlocks for balance reasons.

can anyones elses battlemage out there use heavy weapons?
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Strange

I live in Europe, but I don't think they would make such changes for different countries. It just doesn't make any sense: Why would they on purpose give the Heavy Weapons ability to "Canadian Battlemages", bizar...
Another thing that totally doesn't make any sense is that the prerequisities for a Warlock includes Heavy Weapons though the Battlemage class, wich is another prerequisity for a Warlock, shouldn't normally give you the Heavy weapons skill. This means that you'll be OBLIGHTED to choose either the Paladin class either the Marauder class as your second tier class of your other guild, otherwise you can't become a Warlock...
But I also think that the reason for this is the fact that you haven't updated your game... Many things have been changed in the later versions but this might be an example of a bug created by the changes: They wanted to remove the Heavy Weapon skill but forgot to remove the prerequisity of the Heavy Weapon skill in the Warlock class. The game is full of bugs glitches and holes for as far as I know, and some were just cover by camouflage isntead of being fixed.
P.S.: You should upgrade your game to v 1.4, it's heaven and earth.
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Post by XantharTheFlame »

I just finished playing a Mage/Adept/BattleMage/Enchantress/War Witch, and I did not get Heavy Weapons at all. I'm in Canada and played on 1.3.

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hmm, see i thought, maybe mistaken, that you didnt need to patch the collectors edition, you only needed to patch the basic edition, that the CE version came with all the patches.

i so far find the game playable and fun, the only glitch so far was this whole eastern guild screw up not letting me train in its classes and i know its just my game, my roommate playing off the same CD's doesnt have that problem.

you are saying i should patch the CE version i have?

but what if i loose my heavy weapon skill when i patch it, or even better what if my character with heavy weapon skill is not updated or changed, and causes some game error.
i have little faith in the designers of this game....there are just so many things that show this game was not made with intelligent design...but it has been fun overall, and i dont want to loose my heavy weapon skill.

why do you say the patch is good? what big changes or improvements were made?
maybe ill install the game onto my laptop, move my save game over, then patch it, and see what happens.
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Sorry

Sorry, I'm wrong, I thought that you had the 1.0 v of the game wich is why I advised to get v 1.4, and ofcourse you shouldn't download any patches for the Ce edition is the ultimate version of the game.
And the Ce thing also explains why you can use the Heavy Weapons skill as a Battlemage, I guess next time I'll be a battlemage I'll edit my game to give me Heavy Weapons, now that I know that their were originally intended for the Battlemages.
Sorry for confusing you, I just thought you had 1.0...
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