Would you go to war for your country?

arno_v · Post by **arno_v** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:03 pm

I don't think I would fight for my country. I don't see the point in being proud of my country, for the reasons Phreddie quoted. On the other hand I might fight for my beliefs and friends. For instance if there was a dictator in my country I think I might want to do something about that. Since he is offending what I believe in and I'm personally involved. On the other hand, if some terrorist decided to bomb my country I don't think we can stop this by starting some holy war against terrorism, and I think I should be the one who is fighting that war.

Denethorn · Post by **Denethorn** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:09 pm

I follow Magelord's view. In the case of defending (or 'defensive attack') I would sign myself up. I do definately have pride in Britain, and I'm proud to be British, and I would like to think I'd fight rather than see her fall.

Although with Siberys I do not know how capable I would be. Not physically, but mentally. According to military statistics, only 30% of trained soldiers shoot to kill - of that 30%, 98% suffer trauma in terms of nightmares etc afterwards. The 2% happy-shooters are psycopathic in some way. Gets you thinking, even if you signed up, could you really *fight* for your country?

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:19 pm

[QUOTE=Denethorn]Although with Siberys I do not know how capable I would be. Not physically, but mentally. According to military statistics, only 30% of trained soldiers shoot to kill - of that 30%, 98% suffer trauma in terms of nightmares etc afterwards. The 2% happy-shooters are psycopathic in some way. Gets you thinking, even if you signed up, could you really *fight* for your country?[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't think I would have a problem killing someone if I viewed it as a necessity. I got over the whole reluctance to do violence a long time ago. I got over the reluctance to break bones when simple violent reaction didn't work. I got over the thing of not hitting girls when doing my best to avoid a violent one didn't work.

I learned to trust my instincts when violence broke out, and if someone put me into a situation where there was a method of fatal violent action imminent around me, I would not hesitate to kill any threat near me. I've ended up coming damn close to it before with my bare hands, it would be far too easy with a weapon.

TonyMontana1638 · Post by **TonyMontana1638** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:28 pm

[QUOTE=Magelord648]I would defend my country but I wouldn't attack a country.[/QUOTE]
Precisely my line of thought... If those Canadians swept across the ambassador bridge and attacked Detroit I'd empty my bank account for some sort of high-power rifle, position myself in one of the many burnt out buildings and give 'em hell. There is no way, however, that I'm gonna allow myself to be shipped overseas to fight a war for Halliburton Industries. I take nothing away from those who are willing to fight where I am not and admire their courage, but they'd have to have my nuts in a vise before it would even cross my mind.

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:30 pm

Had to present that as the thing that would make you think of it? I had the sudden image of Bush and Cheney working each of your boys with clamps to get you to fight for your country. :speech: *runs and grabs rum*

TonyMontana1638 · Post by **TonyMontana1638** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:33 pm

[QUOTE=Magrus]Had to present that as the thing that would make you think of it? I had the sudden image of Bush and Cheney working each of your boys with clamps to get you to fight for your country. :speech: *runs and grabs rum*[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry I had to do that Mag (I guarantee it hurt me more than you) but I think it accurately conveys my aversion to fighting a war so old, rich white dudes can keep going to the bank.

*Searches for ice pack*

ch85us2001 · Post by **ch85us2001** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:41 pm

[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]Precisely my line of thought... If those Canadians swept across the ambassador bridge and attacked Detroit I'd empty my bank account for some sort of high-power rifle, position myself in one of the many burnt out buildings and give 'em hell. There is no way, however, that I'm gonna allow myself to be shipped overseas to fight a war for Halliburton Industries. I take nothing away from those who are willing to fight where I am not and admire their courage, but they'd have to have my nuts in a vise before it would even cross my mind.[/QUOTE]
LMAO!!!!!

*buys shotgun, prepares to defend Put In Bay, Kelleys Island, and Cleveland*

TonyMontana1638 · Post by **TonyMontana1638** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:44 pm

[QUOTE=ch85us2001]LMAO!!!!!

*buys shotgun, prepares to defend Put In Bay, Kelleys Island, and Cleveland*[/QUOTE]
We gotta stick together chus, make damn sure the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame doesn't fall into the Mounties' hands.

Oscuro_Sol · Post by **Oscuro_Sol** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:45 pm

[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]We gotta stick together chus, make damn sure the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame doesn't fall into the Mounties' hands.

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Muaha. :mischief:

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:46 pm

Dude, seriously, I think I'd applaud if Canada invaded. I mean, really, that takes a big steel pair for THEM to invade US. :laugh:

TonyMontana1638 · Post by **TonyMontana1638** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:49 pm

[QUOTE=Magrus]Dude, seriously, I think I'd applaud if Canada invaded. I mean, really, that takes a big steel pair for THEM to invade US. :laugh:[/QUOTE]
A big steel pair I'm gonna enjoy shooting to bits from 750 yards away

:mischief:

Gaaaah, there's no way in hell I'm letting OS get her hockey gloves on the Hall Of Fame, she'll somehow manage to increase the number of Beatles items in there!

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:50 pm

[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]A big steel pair I'm gonna enjoy shooting to bits from 750 yards away

:mischief:

Gaaaah, there's no way in hell I'm letting OS get her hockey gloves on the Hall Of Fame, she'll somehow manage to increase the number of Beatles items in there!

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You worry too much. If she crossed the border, don't you think I'd be there to keep her too busy to be doing such a thing?

TonyMontana1638 · Post by **TonyMontana1638** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:52 pm

[QUOTE=Magrus]You worry too much. If she crossed the border, don't you think I'd be there to keep her too busy to be doing such a thing?

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:laugh: :laugh:
I didn't say I wanted OS harmed, I'm just not letting her get near Cleveland!

Oscuro_Sol · Post by **Oscuro_Sol** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:52 pm

[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]A big steel pair I'm gonna enjoy shooting to bits from 750 yards away

:mischief:

Gaaaah, there's no way in hell I'm letting OS get her hockey gloves on the Hall Of Fame, she'll somehow manage to increase the number of Beatles items in there!

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What? Why would you think I would do such a thing?!

[url="http://www.goalieheaven.com/4sale/hgt_gloves_fedorov.jpg"]*cough*[/url]
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Yes, Maggy would be busy teaching me!

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:54 pm

[QUOTE=Oscuro_Sol]Yes, Maggy would be busy teaching me![/QUOTE]

Indeed I would, everything I know! :mischief:

ch85us2001 · Post by **ch85us2001** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:54 pm

*stands guarding an autographed Brian May guitar, Kitten coming down the hallway, shotgun in hands*

*looks at Kitten*

*looks at guitar*

*looks at gun*

*hesitates*

*aims*

TonyMontana1638 · Post by **TonyMontana1638** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:56 pm

:laugh:
It's ok Chus, I'd have picked the guitar too...

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:58 pm

Your both crazy! No pointing firearms at my Kitten!

Oscuro_Sol · Post by **Oscuro_Sol** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:58 pm

Chu, love, I got a guitar already! I got it like two days ago! Three! Something like that.

Oh, Brian.. *sigh*

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:59 pm

You aren't right either...