Fighter/Druid vs Ranger/Cleric

Reso · Post by **Reso** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:13 pm

What's the better and more powerful overall class to be? Of course different players and parties require different skills, but in general what are the major advantages and disadvantages between the Fighter/Druid and Ranger/Cleric.

Both are tank/priest mixes. The Ranger/Cleric has a better mix of the druid/cleric spells with some thieving skills thrown in, whereas Fighter/Druid is a better pure fighter.

Anyways, basically I want to hear opinions to help me judge which of the two classes would fit better in my perfect party. Here are the other five:

Undead Hunter (Human)
Kensai>Mage (dualled) (Human)
Swashbuckler (Halfling)
Priest Of Lathander (Elf or Dwarf)
Sorceror (Elf)

Side question; what is a better race for a pure cleric? I can't decide between elf and dwarf.

Thanks for any input or help.

Luis Antonio · Post by **Luis Antonio** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:55 pm

With the ranger cleric you'll have the druidic spells earlier in the game. The ones that matter, of course. I think that's where you should go.

SP101 · Post by **SP101** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:59 pm

Ranger/Cleric gives you both Druidic and Priest spells, meaning you have access to all possible divine buffs (Draw Upon Holy Might and Ironskin are excellents!). The best fighter/divine caster mix out there.

Berethor · Post by **Berethor** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:45 pm

Ranger/Cleric is much better. More spells, more weapons, what else could you want?

Amran_X_Kaiser · Post by **Amran_X_Kaiser** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:07 am

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http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/baldu ... 72414.html

This topic contains alot of information regarding those two classes that I think would benefit you.

Chippox of Doom · Post by **Chippox of Doom** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:22 pm

Hmm cant ranger/clerics use bow?

I tried to make a ranger/cleric after reading all that but i want to use bow, and it wouldnt let me spec points in bow.

running up to melee stuff isnt really my type for support character.

Thrifalas · Post by **Thrifalas** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:47 pm

[QUOTE=Chippox of Doom]Hmm cant ranger/clerics use bow?

I tried to make a ranger/cleric after reading all that but i want to use bow, and it wouldnt let me spec points in bow.

running up to melee stuff isnt really my type for support character.[/QUOTE]

Ranger/Cleric can only use Cleric weapons, ie no bladed ones. No bows.

And a ranger/cleric isn't a support character, it's a warrior with suportive and healing spells.

TonyMontana1638 · Post by **TonyMontana1638** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:50 pm

No, a ranger/cleric can't use a bow thanks to the ridiculous 2nd edition rules. Search around for some mods to fix that, because a bow-using ranger/cleric dominates a fighter/druid. It's the perfect combo in my book.

As for your question about who makes a better cleric, elves or dwarfs I have to give you an emphatic 'dwarves'. Dexterity is really not that important to a straight cleric, they need to be at the front lines absorbing damage, healing and knocking somebody over the head with a mace. A dwarf is a perfect fit, you have an extra 2 points of constitution to allow your cleric to last longer in a fight and then all you have to focus on is strength and wisdom (lots of wisdom). The elf I think is a bad choice for a cleric, you need those constitution points and the dexterity is kind of a waste, just get your man some sick plate armor and you're good. Worst comes to worst, spoiler

Spoiler

give him the gauntlets of dexterity that'll give him 18 dex if it really bothers you

. A dwarf cleric has always been my very favorite chracter in the game, I just like how the two go together. A no-brainer in my book.

snoopyofour · Post by **snoopyofour** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:23 pm

I don't really see any advantages to being a fighter/druid. I'd rather be a straight druid than go multi/class. A shapeshifter would make a better tank too. I just don't think there's any reason to ever play a fighter/druid, even though I do love Jaheira.

Cleric/Ranger doesn't even need a bow to dominate a fighter/druid.

VonDondu · Post by **VonDondu** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:53 pm

[QUOTE=Reso]Fighter/Druid is a better pure fighter.[/QUOTE]
Why do you say that?

Reso · Post by **Reso** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:00 am

Sorry, it was my assumption. I've not ever had a lot of time to test these out for myself so I wouldn't know. I also haven't even got the game installed at the moment. Anyway, my assumption to Fighter/Druid being the best fighter was based on what weapons he can use and also on how if I had a Ranger/Cleric I'd be tempted to not use heavy armour and put the stealth side of his abilities to effect.

Anyway, I've decided to go for that party in post #1, however I'll take my pure Cleric Priest Of Lathander out for a Ranger/Cleric and will leave it at 5 characters. In fact, any of these combinations could work:

An Undead Hunter is also in all of these:

Kensai>Mage, Blade or Skald (?)
Ranger/Cleric
Swashbuckler
Sorceror

Kensai>Mage, Blade or Skald (?)
Kensai, Archer, Barbarian, Blade or Skald (?)
Thief/Cleric
Sorceror

Kensai, Archer, Barbarian, Blade or Skald (?)
Ranger/Cleric
Mage/Thief
Sorceror

Kensai, Archer, Barbarian, Blade or Skald (?)
Swashbuckler
Mage/Cleric
Sorceror

Kensai>Mage, Blade or Skald (?)
Kensai, Archer, Barbarian, Blade or Skald (?)
Ranger/Cleric
Mage/Thief

Kensai>Mage, Blade or Skald (?)
Kensai, Archer, Barbarian, Blade or Skald (?)
Swashbuckler
Mage/Cleric

Kensai, Archer, Barbarian, Blade or Skald (?)
Kensai, Archer, Barbarian, Blade or Skald (?)
Mage/Cleric
Mage/Thief

Yeah, I got carried away. I know they're all pretty evenly matched, but which party is best, out of them, considering there's also an Undead Hunter in each? Also, where I've put a "(?)" what would fit best?

Thanks.

Chippox of Doom · Post by **Chippox of Doom** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:30 am

And a ranger/cleric isn't a support character, it's a warrior with suportive and healing spells.

Yea well, i wanted to use him as my main, and only healer, was gonan try a good alligned 4 man team, only done it with evil so far. Then i would tyr without either anomen or Aerie

Amran_X_Kaiser · Post by **Amran_X_Kaiser** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:10 am

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'And a ranger/cleric isn't a support character, it's a warrior with suportive and healing spells'

If its not supportive then why have u said - it's a warrior with supportive and healing spells ?

Its fighting capability is less than a fighter, its magic is divine which is enhancing/healing spells with disabling spells - the only offensive spells are few albeit powerful.

'I don't really see any advantages to being a fighter/druid. I'd rather be a straight druid than go multi/class. A shapeshifter would make a better tank too. I just don't think there's any reason to ever play a fighter/druid, even though I do love Jaheira.

Cleric/Ranger doesn't even need a bow to dominate a fighter/druid.'

Clearly an Avenger/Druid rather than an Ranger/Cleric with more spells than it should are a close match. The bow is not made for a ranger/cleric because it is prohibited so if ur ignoring rules go large - make a wizard that uses armor etc.

No class 'dominates' another - its up to the user to use that class as best as possible - I have used a Avenger/Druid to complete TOB before even with tactics and they are better fighters with better natural immunities than cleric/rangers who only have spells they should not be able to obtain whilst relying on Flail of Ages with the Crom Fayer despite the difficulty in obtaining these weapons.

'The best fighter/divine caster mix out there.' - this is also rather sketchy as the Beserker/Cleric is so far dominated in fighting and spellcasting at the same time given its immunities, weapon preferences and spellcasting so similar but ultimately greater than the Ranger/Cleric.

Although all of this has been discussed before I seriously think you should have all the information before making an informed decision about who to include in ur party.