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using ninjutsu with massive dex - does it work?

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using ninjutsu with massive dex - does it work?

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I'm making a male human Thief/Fighter/Budoka/Knight/Ninja Lord that will use heavy armor, no shield (unless I find the Shield of Retribution), no magic, and his fists.

I've seen people say that the higher ninjutsu level you get, the more unarmed damage you deal. I've also heard that having high dex helps :confused: . I was wondering:

1.) is there a limit to any one stat? (excepting the exp cap)
2.) does dex actually increase unarmed dmg with ninjutsu, or just increase strike?
3.) if #2 is true, is it worth it to get a massive dex (enough for almost 200 strike) to still have almost 100 strike even with the strike bug to increase my unarmed dmg massively? :mischief:

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1. From what I've heard that stat cap is 255. But I've only been able to get a stat up to 135, and that was the Strength stat of my Lv70, Urgoth, Fighter/Adapt/Paladin/Samurai/Crusader. And when these stats get around the 110's-130's per example for a Female Human, it costs anywhere from 1,000,000-3,000,000 ADV points to boost each stat one point. And let me tell you if battling a Moonbeast on Hardmode, you get 25k ADV/Exp per kill. And it takes about 40 Hard Mode Moonbeast kills to get about 1,000,000. So, see where I'm coming from. It ain't easy, but, if you got the time?

2.From my experience Dex only increases strike. But there is a bug that resets your strike to zero when you reach 100 in strike. (or maybe its when dexterity reaches 100?) Either way don't raise dex pass about 85, unless you're certain about the equipment your going to use.
-Also, from my experience without ninjitsu, from just using no weapons (bare fists), you do between 1-2 damage without strength damage bonus (ie: 0% extra damage). When I raise strength to where my damage does 50% more extra damage...my fist without ninjitsu skill do 1-3 damage frequently. And with an extra damage of 100%, my fists without ninjitsu skill do between 2-6 damage. And with extra damage at 140%(if i remember correctly), my fists without ninjitsu skill did between 3-8 damage.
-But, I have no idea how strength figures in with Ninjitsu skill, as I'm right now trying to build an Urgoth, Fighter/Rogue/Knight/Bodoku/NinjaLord. I'm might find out within the next week or so after getting some hours in with this character and testing the ability of Ninjitsu with the Strength attribute.

3. Like I said, I'm almost positive dex has no influence on the damage. But, like I also said, I've never made an unarmed character before with the ninjitsu skill...so, I'm sorry that I can't really say for sure whether dex increases damage for ninjitsu or not.

PS:I chose to do Urgoth, because specifically of the Dex/Strike Bug. Being that the Urgoth gets the worst Dex stat...and thus makes it harder to want to get it up to 100 or past it. And since Strength gives bonuses to damage (bare-fists) why not go with the powerhouse of all the races?

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SSJ3Kirby500 wrote:I'm making a male human Thief/Fighter/Budoka/Knight/Ninja Lord that will use heavy armor, no shield (unless I find the Shield of Retribution), no magic, and his fists.

I've seen people say that the higher ninjutsu level you get, the more unarmed damage you deal. I've also heard that having high dex helps :confused: . I was wondering:

1.) is there a limit to any one stat? (excepting the exp cap)
2.) does dex actually increase unarmed dmg with ninjutsu, or just increase strike?
3.) if #2 is true, is it worth it to get a massive dex (enough for almost 200 strike) to still have almost 100 strike even with the strike bug to increase my unarmed dmg massively? :mischief:

If you know this, I thank you for playing the game way too much.
Yes Dex increases your strike ability But your strength increases your damage.. To get the ninjitsu damage higher just increase your level of ninjitsu in your diabolic 15 is really good for killing dragons hand to hand.. I have found that if you go over 100 on any skill such as strength, Dex etc. (EXCEPT VITALITY) you pretty much have a hard time hitting enemies due to a glitch in the game especially when you start that character over and face lower level enemies.. Unless your there already and they get advanced in Talendor when placing the relics. Then you get 105 in everything which is pretty nice. Hope I helped and not confused you too much.
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Planet_Guardian wrote:PS:I chose to do Urgoth, because specifically of the Dex/Strike Bug. Being that the Urgoth gets the worst Dex stat...and thus makes it harder to want to get it up to 100 or past it. And since Strength gives bonuses to damage (bare-fists) why not go with the powerhouse of all the races?
Because there is also a glitch in the game that your Urgoth won't be able to get to the top of the tower on lake lohr becuase his shoulders are too massive.
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Iceman1963 wrote:Because there is also a glitch in the game that your Urgoth won't be able to get to the top of the tower on lake lohr becuase his shoulders are too massive.
Yeah, I've already known of this...as I have used the Hex Editor in the past...but I have been disatisfied with the editor...as anytime you use the editor to fix your Urgoth on top of the Lake Lohr castle/building, my character (the Urgoth) goes back to level 8...which bothered me...so I ended up quiting my Urgoth: Fighter/Rogue/Knight/ Budoka/NinjaLord build after I had raised most stats up very high and after putting a considerable amount of time into playing this character. I can't believe I never noticed that issue with the hex-editor for when I played my Level 70 Urgoth: Fighter/Adapt/Samurai/Paladin/Crusader (for CE 1.5). Oh, well.

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